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To a lot of outsiders it honestly looks like to some extent Israel controls US foreign policy. It's not a good look. Why does the US have to tiptoe so much arou

To a lot of outsiders it honestly looks like to some extent Israel controls US foreign policy. It's not a good look. Why does the US have to tiptoe so much around this issue? Why does Israel have such leverage? What is this leverage? I always say, imagine if it was France instead of Israel. Then you see how crazy the situation is.

zeroonetwothree 2y ago
I can’t imagine the US wouldn’t support France given a comparable terrorist attack.
dahfizz 2y ago
A strong West-allied military in the Middle East is extremely valuable. If France started a war of aggression, the US would also 100% stand with France, especially if it started with France being hit with a terrorist attack. I’m not sure what you are trying to say.
nozzlegear 2y ago
From my layman's perspective, it's because a lot of people in the US just plain support Israel. I think that's because of religious connotations but again I don't really know. I've even seen an Israel flag being flown in the same yard as a Trump 2024 yard sign, here in my tiny northwest Iowa town.
booleandilemma 2y ago
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rockskon 2y ago
Because critics always say what they don't want but rarely think through what they do. The very likely case of Palestine replacing Israel would be a rapidly anti-US, anti-Western, anti-Democratic government and a loss of a very valuable port in the middle east due to the, y'know, rapidly anti-US issue. Also depopulating Israel of Jews would almost certainly result in another Holocaust. Because Hamas - the most likely-to-govern organization for Palestine - has long enshrined Jew murder in its charter.
- dunekid 2y ago
  What a way to reduce the Palestinian resistance to just one organisation! As if there are no murderous settlers being enabled by the state of Israel.
  - rockskon 2y ago
    I am assigning the notion of a single entity governing the theoretical nation of Palestine. All current look as if that entity would be Hamas. What alternative do you have in mind?

zeroonetwothree 2y ago

I can’t imagine the US wouldn’t support France given a comparable terrorist attack.

dahfizz 2y ago

A strong West-allied military in the Middle East is extremely valuable. If France started a war of aggression, the US would also 100% stand with France, especially if it started with France being hit with a terrorist attack. I’m not sure what you are trying to say.

nozzlegear 2y ago

From my layman's perspective, it's because a lot of people in the US just plain support Israel. I think that's because of religious connotations but again I don't really know. I've even seen an Israel flag being flown in the same yard as a Trump 2024 yard sign, here in my tiny northwest Iowa town.

booleandilemma 2y ago

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rockskon 2y ago

Because critics always say what they don't want but rarely think through what they do. The very likely case of Palestine replacing Israel would be a rapidly anti-US, anti-Western, anti-Democratic government and a loss of a very valuable port in the middle east due to the, y'know, rapidly anti-US issue. Also depopulating Israel of Jews would almost certainly result in another Holocaust. Because Hamas - the most likely-to-govern organization for Palestine - has long enshrined Jew murder in its charter.

dunekid 2y ago
What a way to reduce the Palestinian resistance to just one organisation! As if there are no murderous settlers being enabled by the state of Israel.
- rockskon 2y ago
  I am assigning the notion of a single entity governing the theoretical nation of Palestine. All current look as if that entity would be Hamas. What alternative do you have in mind?