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I'm not sure the law changing will do much unless they literally ban tipping. In Canada most or I think all provinces now have no subminimum wage for servers, y

I'm not sure the law changing will do much unless they literally ban tipping. In Canada most or I think all provinces now have no subminimum wage for servers, yet tipping is still expected. It's honestly sort of silly. I'm not entirely sure why some lady taking my order and maybe handing me extra napkins is entitled to 15%+ of my bill while the McDonald's fry cook isn't when they make the same base salary.

basil-rash 2y ago
McDonalds does not allow tipping: https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/help/faq/why-are-staff-not-allowed-to-accept-tips-from-customers.html https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/help/faq/why-are-staff-no...
- voisin 2y ago
  I think it was a generic example rather than meant to be specifically accurate. Replace McDonalds with the name of any other restaurant. Why is the server entitled to 15% but the cook or dishwasher not?
  - morning-coffee 2y ago
    In the U.S., from what I've heard from friends who have been food service workers, the tips are collected by the server, but split up nightly among the whole front/back set of workers.
    - petre 2y ago
      I've heard about that in Europe as well, dunno if it's the norm or just some places that do it.
    - nverno 2y ago
      It's variable. I worked at a place where back of the house didn't get any of the tips.
    - burnished 2y ago
      Every place tends to do this differently, in practice it is never an even split (greatly favoring the servers). And at least in the state I worked was completely voluntary as the tips were yours.
    - ghodith 2y ago
      Far from universal
rootusrootus 2y ago
Same in Oregon, from personal experience. There is no subminimum wage for restaurant workers but tipping is still very much expected.
RiverCrochet 2y ago
No subminimum wage + tipping is fine. But I think tipping before you receive what you pay for is extortion, and that should be banned.
- rootusrootus 2y ago
  > tipping before you receive what you pay for is extortion 100% agree. I tip at places where I am not receiving anything beyond counter service because I can't shake the fear that refusing to tip could negatively affect the meal I'm buying. Even Burgerville (locally well known fast food chain) asks for tips now. I go there less often as a result. I don't like the way it makes me feel.
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lbourdages 2y ago
Quebec still has a lower minimum wage for servers: $12.60 instead of $15.75. https://www.cnesst.gouv.qc.ca/en/working-conditions/wage-and-pay/wages/wages-employees-receiving-tips https://www.cnesst.gouv.qc.ca/en/working-conditions/wage-and... https://www.cnesst.gouv.qc.ca/en/working-conditions/wage-and-pay/wages/minimum-wage https://www.cnesst.gouv.qc.ca/en/working-conditions/wage-and...

basil-rash 2y ago

McDonalds does not allow tipping: https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/help/faq/why-are-staff-not-allowed-to-accept-tips-from-customers.html https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/help/faq/why-are-staff-no...

voisin 2y ago
I think it was a generic example rather than meant to be specifically accurate. Replace McDonalds with the name of any other restaurant. Why is the server entitled to 15% but the cook or dishwasher not?
- morning-coffee 2y ago
  In the U.S., from what I've heard from friends who have been food service workers, the tips are collected by the server, but split up nightly among the whole front/back set of workers.
  - petre 2y ago
    I've heard about that in Europe as well, dunno if it's the norm or just some places that do it.
  - nverno 2y ago
    It's variable. I worked at a place where back of the house didn't get any of the tips.
  - burnished 2y ago
    Every place tends to do this differently, in practice it is never an even split (greatly favoring the servers). And at least in the state I worked was completely voluntary as the tips were yours.
  - ghodith 2y ago
    Far from universal

rootusrootus 2y ago

Same in Oregon, from personal experience. There is no subminimum wage for restaurant workers but tipping is still very much expected.

RiverCrochet 2y ago

No subminimum wage + tipping is fine. But I think tipping before you receive what you pay for is extortion, and that should be banned.

rootusrootus 2y ago
> tipping before you receive what you pay for is extortion 100% agree. I tip at places where I am not receiving anything beyond counter service because I can't shake the fear that refusing to tip could negatively affect the meal I'm buying. Even Burgerville (locally well known fast food chain) asks for tips now. I go there less often as a result. I don't like the way it makes me feel.
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lbourdages 2y ago

Quebec still has a lower minimum wage for servers: $12.60 instead of $15.75. https://www.cnesst.gouv.qc.ca/en/working-conditions/wage-and-pay/wages/wages-employees-receiving-tips https://www.cnesst.gouv.qc.ca/en/working-conditions/wage-and... https://www.cnesst.gouv.qc.ca/en/working-conditions/wage-and-pay/wages/minimum-wage https://www.cnesst.gouv.qc.ca/en/working-conditions/wage-and...