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Why would you want to mold yourself into corporate environment that praises management-style over efficiency? Talking lot and saying nothing is often used for k

Why would you want to mold yourself into corporate environment that praises management-style over efficiency? Talking lot and saying nothing is often used for keeping certain facade or expectation of work or efficiency in corporate world. But if you are interested in becoming a leader to inspire people through talks, I suggest reading other people's speeches and letter like what Albert Camus or Einstein wrote to convey information to audiences, not their books but letters and speeches to understand how they effectively conveyed information. In the corporate world, the tendency to "talk a lot and say little" is used to maintain appearances and complicate matters. You should not mold yourself to that. But if you want to become an inspiring talker, 1. find something you genuinely care about. 2. study speeches by people who are passionate about their subjects. 3. refine and iterate on your speeches. 4. practice delivering your speech to others, observe their responses, and refine it until they also start to care about what you care about. My personal opinion is don't read self help books, those are always static, often never matches one individual's true experience since it is taken from someone else's.

markus_zhang 2y ago
Because it's a useful skill if OP wants to climb the pole, or OP simply wants to appear to be less nerdy?
- indigoman4586 2y ago
  You can appear less nerdy by finding other things you are interested in, art, philosophy, music etc and developing those skills. Climbing the pole to feed into the 'talk lot, say nothing' system is just feeding the broken system recursively. It is obvious why OP wants it, but OP should question whether they should want that.
  - markus_zhang 2y ago
    IMO it's a lot easier to just appear to be amiable in a corporate environment than do other things, especially if one does not really care about being amiable but only APPEAR to be. I have so far learned to make meaningless smalltalks and other small techniques just to make sure that I tick all those normal human being boxes. I actually care nothing about that but ticking those boxes makes me feel safer.
- AnimalMuppet 2y ago
  OP should be very cautious about climbing the pole. They're likely to absolutely hate it up there. They're going to have to become someone they're not, and be that all the time. Look, there's nothing wrong with broadening your range - with learning empathy, and how to make small talk, and such. But don't take a role that expects you to be outside your normal self 100% of the time.

markus_zhang 2y ago

Because it's a useful skill if OP wants to climb the pole, or OP simply wants to appear to be less nerdy?

indigoman4586 2y ago
You can appear less nerdy by finding other things you are interested in, art, philosophy, music etc and developing those skills. Climbing the pole to feed into the 'talk lot, say nothing' system is just feeding the broken system recursively. It is obvious why OP wants it, but OP should question whether they should want that.
- markus_zhang 2y ago
  IMO it's a lot easier to just appear to be amiable in a corporate environment than do other things, especially if one does not really care about being amiable but only APPEAR to be. I have so far learned to make meaningless smalltalks and other small techniques just to make sure that I tick all those normal human being boxes. I actually care nothing about that but ticking those boxes makes me feel safer.
AnimalMuppet 2y ago
OP should be very cautious about climbing the pole. They're likely to absolutely hate it up there. They're going to have to become someone they're not, and be that all the time. Look, there's nothing wrong with broadening your range - with learning empathy, and how to make small talk, and such. But don't take a role that expects you to be outside your normal self 100% of the time.