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> These hopes have to be tempered by the issues of the general sterility of software, though. GitHub, StackOverflow, Glitch, and other community sites were not

> These hopes have to be tempered by the issues of the general sterility of software, though. GitHub, StackOverflow, Glitch, and other community sites were not really made with NSFW content in mind. Yes and I hope it stays that way. Teenagers or even children may use those platforms and I think we're oversexualizing everything too much already. Maybe that's an opportunity for a new developer platform focused on NSFW uses.

averageRoyalty 2y ago
Children should not be using the internet unsupervised, that's irresponsible parenting. And teenagers are aware of sex.
- omeid2 2y ago
  How do you suppose a kid should be "supervised" while browsing on Github for example?
  - Saline9515 2y ago
    I'm pretty conservative but i f I found my teenage son browsing the buttplug.io library on github I wouldn't be very upset. It's funny and midly erotic with no visual cues, something that is not a problem for teens.
    - pcthrowaway 2y ago
      Yeah I think the line for concern is when they start getting their PRs merged
      - tuetuopay 2y ago
        At least they worry about what runs in their butt, which is responsible!
- mcmcmc 2y ago
  GitHub’s TOS also requires account users to be 13 or older, so it’s definitely not intended as a site for children.
cynicalsecurity 2y ago
I think we undersexualise everything and our morals look as if they came straight from the Middle Ages.
- speff 2y ago
  Agreed. People have become so scared of sex nowadays compared to the pre-2000s. Unsure how, but puritanical culture somehow took over Related: https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/ https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/
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- ossobuco 2y ago
  I used to share your opinion, but I had to do with the adult content world for work related stuff and it was the filthiest thing I've ever had to deal with in my life. Sex work is an ugly thing, built upon the exploitation of both workers and customers. Nothing freeing or emancipating about that. Yes we shouldn't treat sex as a taboo and children should be educated to avoid STDs, unwanted pregnancies, etc. No, we shouldn't expose children to the filth of the adult content world.
  - bagful 2y ago
    Could our marginalization of healthy human sexuality relative to other normal, if risky, activities be contributing to said “filthiness”?
  - creer 2y ago
    You could also have been referring to retail or low-cost manufacturing. For others, sex work is validating, empowering, exciting, beautiful, freeing, independent, a way to be seen (that means recognized for who they are - rather than societal conformance pressures), a direct interaction with people who truly appreciate and are thankful for the work, flexible, personal (as opposed to impersonal / replaceable cog), creative, and something that they can get up for in the morning. What you are describing is not rooted in, or equivalent to "sex work". You can be depressed and want to kill yourself at the perspective of going to the office. That it's an "office" is not the root of it.
viraptor 2y ago
> we're oversexualizing everything too much already. We're really not. Most platforms are way too strict with NSFW things, especially the recent LLMs which won't even write spicy fan fiction. There's no point in NSFW which is completely out of context and unnecessary, but a genuine buttplug controller? What's wrong with that?
elric 2y ago
By and large, we all get horny, and we all like to get our rocks off. A good thing too, or the species would have died out ages ago. It's sad that even in 2024 it is taboo to talk about it in the eyes of some, or apparently to even publish tangentially related source code to GitHub. I very much doubt that any curious teenager is going to get turned on from reading the buttplug.io source code. And if they do: props to them. On the one hand, we seem to sexualize the weirdest things (beauty pageants for kids, anyone?) without anyone seeming to care. But on the other hand, we're weirdly prude & defensive about perfectly natural processes (sex, masturbation, sexual curiosity & experimentation) to the point that we have to censor them on the internet. I still can't grok that.
temptemptemp111 2y ago
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emptiestplace 2y ago
Sex and breathing are similar, you know?

averageRoyalty 2y ago

Children should not be using the internet unsupervised, that's irresponsible parenting. And teenagers are aware of sex.

omeid2 2y ago
How do you suppose a kid should be "supervised" while browsing on Github for example?
- Saline9515 2y ago
  I'm pretty conservative but i f I found my teenage son browsing the buttplug.io library on github I wouldn't be very upset. It's funny and midly erotic with no visual cues, something that is not a problem for teens.
  - pcthrowaway 2y ago
    Yeah I think the line for concern is when they start getting their PRs merged
    - tuetuopay 2y ago
      At least they worry about what runs in their butt, which is responsible!
mcmcmc 2y ago
GitHub’s TOS also requires account users to be 13 or older, so it’s definitely not intended as a site for children.

cynicalsecurity 2y ago

I think we undersexualise everything and our morals look as if they came straight from the Middle Ages.

speff 2y ago
Agreed. People have become so scared of sex nowadays compared to the pre-2000s. Unsure how, but puritanical culture somehow took over Related: https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/ https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/
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ossobuco 2y ago
I used to share your opinion, but I had to do with the adult content world for work related stuff and it was the filthiest thing I've ever had to deal with in my life. Sex work is an ugly thing, built upon the exploitation of both workers and customers. Nothing freeing or emancipating about that. Yes we shouldn't treat sex as a taboo and children should be educated to avoid STDs, unwanted pregnancies, etc. No, we shouldn't expose children to the filth of the adult content world.
- bagful 2y ago
  Could our marginalization of healthy human sexuality relative to other normal, if risky, activities be contributing to said “filthiness”?
- creer 2y ago
  You could also have been referring to retail or low-cost manufacturing. For others, sex work is validating, empowering, exciting, beautiful, freeing, independent, a way to be seen (that means recognized for who they are - rather than societal conformance pressures), a direct interaction with people who truly appreciate and are thankful for the work, flexible, personal (as opposed to impersonal / replaceable cog), creative, and something that they can get up for in the morning. What you are describing is not rooted in, or equivalent to "sex work". You can be depressed and want to kill yourself at the perspective of going to the office. That it's an "office" is not the root of it.

viraptor 2y ago

> we're oversexualizing everything too much already. We're really not. Most platforms are way too strict with NSFW things, especially the recent LLMs which won't even write spicy fan fiction. There's no point in NSFW which is completely out of context and unnecessary, but a genuine buttplug controller? What's wrong with that?

elric 2y ago

By and large, we all get horny, and we all like to get our rocks off. A good thing too, or the species would have died out ages ago. It's sad that even in 2024 it is taboo to talk about it in the eyes of some, or apparently to even publish tangentially related source code to GitHub. I very much doubt that any curious teenager is going to get turned on from reading the buttplug.io source code. And if they do: props to them. On the one hand, we seem to sexualize the weirdest things (beauty pageants for kids, anyone?) without anyone seeming to care. But on the other hand, we're weirdly prude & defensive about perfectly natural processes (sex, masturbation, sexual curiosity & experimentation) to the point that we have to censor them on the internet. I still can't grok that.

temptemptemp111 2y ago

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emptiestplace 2y ago

Sex and breathing are similar, you know?