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Pretty sure this is sentiment of the crowd here. But I'm not sure if the general public will see it that way.

by quaintdev 2y ago

decremental 2y ago
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manuelmoreale 2y ago
I doubt the general public uses Firefox with strict tracking turned on (unfortunately)
- adra 2y ago
  Let's be honest, the general public isn't using Firefox, isn't using x.com and has never heard of hacker News and if taught, they'd be afraid you were trying to scam them. We live in a pretty deep filter bubble.
  - manuelmoreale 2y ago
    Absolutely agree on that and I personally always try to keep in mind that HN is a weird bubble when it comes to tech but especially when it comes to things related to either money or society.
  - sunaookami 2y ago
    In the US every 2nd person uses Twitter. Firefox is only used by 7% in the US.
    - manuelmoreale 2y ago
      So according to most numbers I see floating online it’s not every other person in the US. I’m seeing a bit more than 100M on a population of 330M. All this is if we trust the numbers coming out of Twitter. But still, 30% is more than 7%.
Quothling 2y ago
I think Twitter will probably remain popular for a long time, especially for people with a more right leaning perspective on the world. That's not really the people I associate with, and it probably needs to be mentioned here that I'm Danish. Which matters because the sort of people who post right leaning stuff here are kind of your crazy uncle on Facebook kind of people. Which means that Danish Twitter is slowly becoming a like an actual Facebook feed where the only people who post are the ones you'd likely associate with if you're here on HN. Even if you're conservative, because it's just so crazy and hateful. I personally wish people were heading for Mastodon. I especially think that our institutions should operate Mastodon instances on their own, so that an American tech giant can't decide to "cancel" a Danish politician as an example. I mean, I don't agree with anything our far right does on social media, but the concept of a foreign tech giant being able to ban an elected Danish official is still sort of crazy. Anyway, people are going to Threads for the most part. Note that this is a perspective from my little point of the world. Though some of our major news media have decided to ditch Twitter, as well as closing their posts on Facebook to comments.
- thesuavefactor 2y ago
  I love this comment, you are absolutely right. If every country/government would use the fediverse to enable free speech, and maybe even promote it, that would be a big step forward.
  - Quothling 2y ago
    Sometimes I'm a little embarrassed about just how readily Danish politicians and news media have adopted the large tech companies. I know it's related to users, but it's also sort of an egg and the hen situation / bad spiral where it would be nice if they actually put ideology/democracy first. At least the EU is doing a lot of good work. https://www.edps.europa.eu/system/files/2022-07/22-07-26_techdispatch-1-2022-federated-social-media-platforms_en.pdf https://www.edps.europa.eu/system/files/2022-07/22-07-26_tec...
- heraldgeezer 2y ago
  >especially for people with a more right leaning perspective on the world. Why add this without any source lol? Things like the leftie Palestine protests and the news streamer Hasanabi extensively get news from and use Twitter.

Pretty sure this is sentiment of the crowd here. But I'm not sure if the general public will see it that way.

decremental 2y ago

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manuelmoreale 2y ago

I doubt the general public uses Firefox with strict tracking turned on (unfortunately)

adra 2y ago
Let's be honest, the general public isn't using Firefox, isn't using x.com and has never heard of hacker News and if taught, they'd be afraid you were trying to scam them. We live in a pretty deep filter bubble.
- manuelmoreale 2y ago
  Absolutely agree on that and I personally always try to keep in mind that HN is a weird bubble when it comes to tech but especially when it comes to things related to either money or society.
- sunaookami 2y ago
  In the US every 2nd person uses Twitter. Firefox is only used by 7% in the US.
  - manuelmoreale 2y ago
    So according to most numbers I see floating online it’s not every other person in the US. I’m seeing a bit more than 100M on a population of 330M. All this is if we trust the numbers coming out of Twitter. But still, 30% is more than 7%.

Quothling 2y ago

I think Twitter will probably remain popular for a long time, especially for people with a more right leaning perspective on the world. That's not really the people I associate with, and it probably needs to be mentioned here that I'm Danish. Which matters because the sort of people who post right leaning stuff here are kind of your crazy uncle on Facebook kind of people. Which means that Danish Twitter is slowly becoming a like an actual Facebook feed where the only people who post are the ones you'd likely associate with if you're here on HN. Even if you're conservative, because it's just so crazy and hateful. I personally wish people were heading for Mastodon. I especially think that our institutions should operate Mastodon instances on their own, so that an American tech giant can't decide to "cancel" a Danish politician as an example. I mean, I don't agree with anything our far right does on social media, but the concept of a foreign tech giant being able to ban an elected Danish official is still sort of crazy. Anyway, people are going to Threads for the most part. Note that this is a perspective from my little point of the world. Though some of our major news media have decided to ditch Twitter, as well as closing their posts on Facebook to comments.

thesuavefactor 2y ago
I love this comment, you are absolutely right. If every country/government would use the fediverse to enable free speech, and maybe even promote it, that would be a big step forward.
- Quothling 2y ago
  Sometimes I'm a little embarrassed about just how readily Danish politicians and news media have adopted the large tech companies. I know it's related to users, but it's also sort of an egg and the hen situation / bad spiral where it would be nice if they actually put ideology/democracy first. At least the EU is doing a lot of good work. https://www.edps.europa.eu/system/files/2022-07/22-07-26_techdispatch-1-2022-federated-social-media-platforms_en.pdf https://www.edps.europa.eu/system/files/2022-07/22-07-26_tec...
heraldgeezer 2y ago
>especially for people with a more right leaning perspective on the world. Why add this without any source lol? Things like the leftie Palestine protests and the news streamer Hasanabi extensively get news from and use Twitter.