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It's because the US has historically promulgated a nudge-nudge wink-wink attitude that could be summed up as "You can't come here legally, but if you get throug

It's because the US has historically promulgated a nudge-nudge wink-wink attitude that could be summed up as "You can't come here legally, but if you get through our defenses, there will be plenty of work waiting for you." Many of us have sympathy for people who came in under this system who generally just want to work their asses off doing jobs no American wants to do. We're also talking about kids brought here as toddlers. Many of us think deporting these people is particularly cruel, as their home country is completely foreign to them.

refurb 2y ago
> It's because the US has historically promulgated a nudge-nudge wink-wink attitude that could be summed up as "You can't come here legally, but if you get through our defenses, there will be plenty of work waiting for you." Do you mean official US government policy? Do you have a source for that claim?
- suzzer99 2y ago
  Does nudge-nudge wink-wink imply official policy to you? How about undocumented immigrants openly hanging outside of Home Depot waiting for work, while everyone looks the other way because contractors rely on them? That feels like unofficial policy to me.
  - refurb 2y ago
    So what you're saying is you know it's true, but there isn't any evidence? The fact that the US has a bad track record on enforcing immigration law isn't proof of a "wink wink" policy, especially if you considering huge proportion of Congress doesn't want immigration laws enforced.
    - suzzer99 2y ago
      Not wanting immigration laws enforced is exactly what I'm talking about with nudge-nudge wink-wink. An unenforced law isn't really a law. Also you're crazy if you think most Republicans in Congress actually want immigration laws enforced. They like the cheap labor. They just want to use it as a wedge issue every 2-4 years.
      - refurb 2y ago
        > Not wanting immigration laws enforced is exactly what I'm talking about with nudge-nudge wink-wink. But there are lots of explanations beyond "wink-wink" for not enforcing immigration policies. The Democrats want more immigration, even if it's illegal, so where they have the power (say SF) they don't enforce them. That doesn't mean the Democrats are happy with the status quo of a large illegal immigrant working popoulation. > Also you're crazy if you think most Republicans in Congress actually want immigration laws enforced. Really? So place like Texas that are trying to stop illegal immigration at the border but being blocked really want illegal immigration? I don't think so.

refurb 2y ago

> It's because the US has historically promulgated a nudge-nudge wink-wink attitude that could be summed up as "You can't come here legally, but if you get through our defenses, there will be plenty of work waiting for you." Do you mean official US government policy? Do you have a source for that claim?

suzzer99 2y ago
Does nudge-nudge wink-wink imply official policy to you? How about undocumented immigrants openly hanging outside of Home Depot waiting for work, while everyone looks the other way because contractors rely on them? That feels like unofficial policy to me.
- refurb 2y ago
  So what you're saying is you know it's true, but there isn't any evidence? The fact that the US has a bad track record on enforcing immigration law isn't proof of a "wink wink" policy, especially if you considering huge proportion of Congress doesn't want immigration laws enforced.
  - suzzer99 2y ago
    Not wanting immigration laws enforced is exactly what I'm talking about with nudge-nudge wink-wink. An unenforced law isn't really a law. Also you're crazy if you think most Republicans in Congress actually want immigration laws enforced. They like the cheap labor. They just want to use it as a wedge issue every 2-4 years.
    - refurb 2y ago
      > Not wanting immigration laws enforced is exactly what I'm talking about with nudge-nudge wink-wink. But there are lots of explanations beyond "wink-wink" for not enforcing immigration policies. The Democrats want more immigration, even if it's illegal, so where they have the power (say SF) they don't enforce them. That doesn't mean the Democrats are happy with the status quo of a large illegal immigrant working popoulation. > Also you're crazy if you think most Republicans in Congress actually want immigration laws enforced. Really? So place like Texas that are trying to stop illegal immigration at the border but being blocked really want illegal immigration? I don't think so.