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Jeez! The post title is "Aro, Zig's new C compiler", not just about Aro or Zig. In fact, just by virtue of being about Aro, it is also about C compilers - as t

Jeez! The post title is "Aro, Zig's new C compiler", not just about Aro or Zig. In fact, just by virtue of being about Aro, it is also about C compilers - as the title clearly says, whether you (pedantically) like it or not. And D is a language that is used as a better C too, apart from other things. In fact, lang C -> lang D, says something significant to this discussion, right? >Could you draw a comparison for those who came here for Zig and not D? Sigh. More pedantic talk. Shall we start drawing Venn diagrams to clarify things? Is it not possible that there can be different groups of people, some of whom are interested in Zig, others in Zig and Aro, others in C compilers generally, and others in D with some of those groups overlapping? That's what Venn diagrams are meant to show.

F3nd0 2y ago
And just by virtue of being about C compilers, it is also about C, thereby making all talk about programming languages on-topic? I see your point about other C compilers being related, but following this line of thought, most any topic could be generalised to whatever you want. Generally speaking, the more you stray from the most concrete topic at hand (in this case Aro and only Aro), the more it becomes appropriate to explain and elaborate on the relation between that and whatever you've decided to talk about instead. In my view, anyway.
- fuzztester 2y ago
  your logic in the first sentence of your first paragraph is quite faulty. how did you jump from C to all programming languages, in the context of that statement? I did not say anything of the kind. I can't waste my time explaining things multiple times to different people who don't get it, when others have got it. maybe check my answers to the other people in this subthread, if you are that interested, for what is such a trivially obvious matter. good luck.
  - F3nd0 2y ago
    > how did you jump from C to all programming languages, in the context of that statement? I did not say anything of the kind. Simply by taking further steps in the same direction. The submission is about Aro, and therefore comments about Aro are on-topic. By your own stated logic, Aro is a C compiler, and therefore comments about other C compilers are also on-topic. One could then go on to say that C compilers in turn pertain to C, and C in turn is a programming language, therefore rendering all comments about programming on-topic under a submission about Aro. Granted, the example is a bit of a hyperbole, and I doubt anyone would really jump that far. But I find your assertion that a submission about a program (in this instance Aro) renders comments about all other programs of the same kind (in this instance C compilers for other languages) on-topic to be much in the same vein. > I can't waste my time explaining things multiple times to different people who don't get it, when others have got it. > maybe check my answers to the other people in this subthread, if you are that interested, for what is such a trivially obvious matter. I have, of course, read your other comments, but haven’t found anything that would help me understand or accept your argument (assuming that is what I'm supposed to ‘get’). I suppose it's not so ‘trivially obvious’ to me. Don't feel obliged to elaborate any further if you feel that's a waste of your time, though. Good luck!
    - fuzztester 2y ago
      Seems like multiple instances of either unintentionally poor logic, intentionally fake logic, or just weasel words, on your part, in your above comment that I am replying to. Here is one, i will not go into others: >>how did you jump from C to all programming languages, in the context of that statement? I did not say anything of the kind. >Simply by taking further steps in the same direction. but i did not ask you to take further steps in the same direction, so that you could twist my words. i limited myself to C and closely related topics, like D, C++, Walter, and Andrei - related languages and people involved with them. don't try to twist my words, as you appear to have done above. yes, once i find people talking fake or not understanding, it is a waste of my time, so i will not engage further with you.
      - F3nd0 2y ago
        > but i did not ask you to take further steps in the same direction, so that you could twist my words. I took them to paint an example, so that my argument could be better understood. The example was clearly presented as my own; I have twisted no words of yours from what I can see, and I most certainly wasn't trying to. > i limited myself to C and closely related topics […] Yes, while the submission is about Aro, not C, hence the disagreement. > […] so i will not engage further with you. Thank you, I suppose.

F3nd0 2y ago

And just by virtue of being about C compilers, it is also about C, thereby making all talk about programming languages on-topic? I see your point about other C compilers being related, but following this line of thought, most any topic could be generalised to whatever you want. Generally speaking, the more you stray from the most concrete topic at hand (in this case Aro and only Aro), the more it becomes appropriate to explain and elaborate on the relation between that and whatever you've decided to talk about instead. In my view, anyway.

fuzztester 2y ago
your logic in the first sentence of your first paragraph is quite faulty. how did you jump from C to all programming languages, in the context of that statement? I did not say anything of the kind. I can't waste my time explaining things multiple times to different people who don't get it, when others have got it. maybe check my answers to the other people in this subthread, if you are that interested, for what is such a trivially obvious matter. good luck.
- F3nd0 2y ago
  > how did you jump from C to all programming languages, in the context of that statement? I did not say anything of the kind. Simply by taking further steps in the same direction. The submission is about Aro, and therefore comments about Aro are on-topic. By your own stated logic, Aro is a C compiler, and therefore comments about other C compilers are also on-topic. One could then go on to say that C compilers in turn pertain to C, and C in turn is a programming language, therefore rendering all comments about programming on-topic under a submission about Aro. Granted, the example is a bit of a hyperbole, and I doubt anyone would really jump that far. But I find your assertion that a submission about a program (in this instance Aro) renders comments about all other programs of the same kind (in this instance C compilers for other languages) on-topic to be much in the same vein. > I can't waste my time explaining things multiple times to different people who don't get it, when others have got it. > maybe check my answers to the other people in this subthread, if you are that interested, for what is such a trivially obvious matter. I have, of course, read your other comments, but haven’t found anything that would help me understand or accept your argument (assuming that is what I'm supposed to ‘get’). I suppose it's not so ‘trivially obvious’ to me. Don't feel obliged to elaborate any further if you feel that's a waste of your time, though. Good luck!
  - fuzztester 2y ago
    Seems like multiple instances of either unintentionally poor logic, intentionally fake logic, or just weasel words, on your part, in your above comment that I am replying to. Here is one, i will not go into others: >>how did you jump from C to all programming languages, in the context of that statement? I did not say anything of the kind. >Simply by taking further steps in the same direction. but i did not ask you to take further steps in the same direction, so that you could twist my words. i limited myself to C and closely related topics, like D, C++, Walter, and Andrei - related languages and people involved with them. don't try to twist my words, as you appear to have done above. yes, once i find people talking fake or not understanding, it is a waste of my time, so i will not engage further with you.
    - F3nd0 2y ago
      > but i did not ask you to take further steps in the same direction, so that you could twist my words. I took them to paint an example, so that my argument could be better understood. The example was clearly presented as my own; I have twisted no words of yours from what I can see, and I most certainly wasn't trying to. > i limited myself to C and closely related topics […] Yes, while the submission is about Aro, not C, hence the disagreement. > […] so i will not engage further with you. Thank you, I suppose.