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> Importing fascist or fascist adjacent people who ultimately became voters has changed US politics where Florida is now a safely red state. And on the flip si

by xienze 2y ago

> Importing fascist or fascist adjacent people who ultimately became voters has changed US politics where Florida is now a safely red state. And on the flip side, importing Central and South Americans who are socialist or socialist adjacent and ultimately become voters has changed US politics where California and other states are now safely blue. > I find it interesting how this aspect of immigration is so often missed or glossed over^W^W^W^Wdismissed as a right wing conspiracy theory.

Der_Einzige 2y ago
South and Central Americans fall back to their catholic roots, rejecting the communism of their home country within two generations.
jmyeet 2y ago
> And on the flip side, importing Central and South Americans Which countries are those, exactly? I"ll refer you to: - "South American Immigrants in the United States" [1]; - "Hispanics and Latinos in California" [2]. Now California's single largest ethnicity is Hispanic. Nearly all are of Mexican descent. They're underrepresented in voting though where the typical California voter is still older and white [3]. We have Venezuelan refugees now. Their government is ostensibly socialist. So Venezuelan refugees have similar leanings to Cuban immigrants. Colombians are a large group there. One exit poll suggested roughly half voted for Trump in 2020 [4]. The point is that the Latino and Hispanic vote is complicated and certainly not monolithic. [1]: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/south-american-immigrants-united-states https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/south-american-immig... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanics_and_Latinos_in_California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanics_and_Latinos_in_Calif... [3]: https://calmatters.org/newsletters/whatmatters/2023/08/california-voters/ https://calmatters.org/newsletters/whatmatters/2023/08/calif... [4]: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/populist-leftist-colombian-americans-vote-high-stakes-presidential-ele-rcna33916 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/populist-leftist-colombi...

by xienze 2y ago

Der_Einzige 2y ago

South and Central Americans fall back to their catholic roots, rejecting the communism of their home country within two generations.

jmyeet 2y ago

> And on the flip side, importing Central and South Americans Which countries are those, exactly? I"ll refer you to: - "South American Immigrants in the United States" [1]; - "Hispanics and Latinos in California" [2]. Now California's single largest ethnicity is Hispanic. Nearly all are of Mexican descent. They're underrepresented in voting though where the typical California voter is still older and white [3]. We have Venezuelan refugees now. Their government is ostensibly socialist. So Venezuelan refugees have similar leanings to Cuban immigrants. Colombians are a large group there. One exit poll suggested roughly half voted for Trump in 2020 [4]. The point is that the Latino and Hispanic vote is complicated and certainly not monolithic. [1]: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/south-american-immigrants-united-states https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/south-american-immig... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanics_and_Latinos_in_California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanics_and_Latinos_in_Calif... [3]: https://calmatters.org/newsletters/whatmatters/2023/08/california-voters/ https://calmatters.org/newsletters/whatmatters/2023/08/calif... [4]: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/populist-leftist-colombian-americans-vote-high-stakes-presidential-ele-rcna33916 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/populist-leftist-colombi...