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How exactly does this relate to the post, Aro, other than this also being a C compiler? Could you draw a comparison for those who came here for Zig and not D?

• WJW 2y ago
  It doesn't relate to Zig at all, but Walter Bright is the creator of D and tremendously proud of it.
  • nequo 2y ago
    I know that he is but this is incredibly off-topic. Aro deserves the attention it is getting, without the discussion getting hijacked by another project. D would deserve attention too, in a separate post, or here if it was explained how it relates to Aro.
    • jraph 2y ago
      Walter's comment could be read more charitably and could show his interest in Zig and similar choices that are made. The last sentence, or, indeed, the whole comment, can be read like "We did this for D, and it works well. [go for it]". I don't think D is casting any shadow on Zig. Both languages play in the same field, D is older but I feel like we hear about Zig way more these days. His comment is likely to interest people interested in Zig or PLs in general. The comment as is might lack some finesse but I don't think it deserves this level of aggressiveness.
      • bithavoc 2y ago
        I have profound respect for Walter and all his work, same for Andrei; but his comment was off-topic.
    • pests 2y ago
      His post does seem self-promotional I admit but Walter usually shows up in any threads about compilers and usually shares interesting comparisons and contrasts to how his language and compiler handled the issue. For me, I appreciate the perspective and opinions of someone else in the industry with proven results. D is a major language, you can't deny that. Maybe this post he should have went into a little more detail but I do not think he posted this with ill intent. If anything I'm sure he would love to continue a dialog about the design decisions that led him to implement the same feature - and maybe this was his way of starting the conversation. Given that he is a 15 year member of our community, and has earned 70k karma, we should give him the benefit of the doubt.
      • WalterBright 2y ago
        > he should have went into a little more detail If there's interest, I can give more detail.
    • fuzztester 2y ago
      >I know that he is but this is incredibly off-topic. no, it is not. in the fine tradition of hn, let me reply by saying, "that's like, just your opinion, man". which is not worth more than any other people's opinion on this site. maybe worth less. e.g.: >D would deserve attention too if ... so now you are telling everyone what deserves attention? then what have you done to deserve attention yourself (to your comments, that is)? walter has done plenty. he created the D language, and still maintains it, along with others, like, you know, Andrei, for one. Google who that is. Google about Walter to know what other stuff he has done before, like you know, the Zortech C++ compiler.
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      • nequo 2y ago
        Let me just say, your comments have not been the most constructive I’ve read.
        • fuzztester 2y ago
          Sure, I will let you say it :) Let me say that I think the same about this comment of yours upthread: >>D would deserve attention too, in a separate post, or here if it was explained how it relates to Aro. In case you cannot or don't want to google for some reason, here are the Wikipedia articles about D, Walter and Andrei, and important related topics (all on Wikipedia, which implies notability) that I suggested you look up, above: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Bright https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Bright https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zortech_C%2B%2B https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zortech_C%2B%2B https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_(1977_video_game) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_(1977_video_game) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_(programming_language) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_(programming_language) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Alexandrescu https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Alexandrescu https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_C%2B%2B_Design https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_C%2B%2B_Design https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B Edit: spelling
• fuzztester 2y ago
  Jeez! The post title is "Aro, Zig's new C compiler", not just about Aro or Zig. In fact, just by virtue of being about Aro, it is also about C compilers - as the title clearly says, whether you (pedantically) like it or not. And D is a language that is used as a better C too, apart from other things. In fact, lang C -> lang D, says something significant to this discussion, right? >Could you draw a comparison for those who came here for Zig and not D? Sigh. More pedantic talk. Shall we start drawing Venn diagrams to clarify things? Is it not possible that there can be different groups of people, some of whom are interested in Zig, others in Zig and Aro, others in C compilers generally, and others in D with some of those groups overlapping? That's what Venn diagrams are meant to show.
  • F3nd0 2y ago
    And just by virtue of being about C compilers, it is also about C, thereby making all talk about programming languages on-topic? I see your point about other C compilers being related, but following this line of thought, most any topic could be generalised to whatever you want. Generally speaking, the more you stray from the most concrete topic at hand (in this case Aro and only Aro), the more it becomes appropriate to explain and elaborate on the relation between that and whatever you've decided to talk about instead. In my view, anyway.
    • fuzztester 2y ago
      your logic in the first sentence of your first paragraph is quite faulty. how did you jump from C to all programming languages, in the context of that statement? I did not say anything of the kind. I can't waste my time explaining things multiple times to different people who don't get it, when others have got it. maybe check my answers to the other people in this subthread, if you are that interested, for what is such a trivially obvious matter. good luck.
      • F3nd0 2y ago
        > how did you jump from C to all programming languages, in the context of that statement? I did not say anything of the kind. Simply by taking further steps in the same direction. The submission is about Aro, and therefore comments about Aro are on-topic. By your own stated logic, Aro is a C compiler, and therefore comments about other C compilers are also on-topic. One could then go on to say that C compilers in turn pertain to C, and C in turn is a programming language, therefore rendering all comments about programming on-topic under a submission about Aro. Granted, the example is a bit of a hyperbole, and I doubt anyone would really jump that far. But I find your assertion that a submission about a program (in this instance Aro) renders comments about all other programs of the same kind (in this instance C compilers for other languages) on-topic to be much in the same vein. > I can't waste my time explaining things multiple times to different people who don't get it, when others have got it. > maybe check my answers to the other people in this subthread, if you are that interested, for what is such a trivially obvious matter. I have, of course, read your other comments, but haven’t found anything that would help me understand or accept your argument (assuming that is what I'm supposed to ‘get’). I suppose it's not so ‘trivially obvious’ to me. Don't feel obliged to elaborate any further if you feel that's a waste of your time, though. Good luck!