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Looking at two countries in an actual long running war, both kept using cashless means, with actually increases in usage: https://cbr.ru/eng/press/event/?id=18

Looking at two countries in an actual long running war, both kept using cashless means, with actually increases in usage: https://cbr.ru/eng/press/event/?id=18776 https://cbr.ru/eng/press/event/?id=18776 https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/drugiy-rik-povnomasshtabnoyi-viyni-obsyagi-bezgotivkovih-rozrahunkiv-zrostayut https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/drugiy-rik-povnomasshtabnoyi...

newzisforsukas 2y ago
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2024/0703/gaza-war-palestinians-cash-atms https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2024/0703/gaza-w... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-10/gaza-faces-major-cash-shortage-after-war-destroys-banking-system https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-10/gaza-face...
- makeitdouble 2y ago
  It's not a war, it's a genocide. At this point it's not cash that is missing, it's absolutely everything that sustain human life, and there's probably not enough working things to even barter.
kjkjadksj 2y ago
This isn’t really all hell breaking loose actual war. If it were Kyiv would have been a ruin years ago.
- AndriyKunitsyn 2y ago
  Throughout this war, 62k Russians are certainly KIA because we know their names and faces [~], and estimates of total Russian KIAs vary from 120k from a Russian outlet [^] to 565k by Ukrainian Armed Forces [_]. In comparison, total KIA losses of Soviets in the Afghanistan war were 14k-26k, and Americans in the Vietnam war lost 58k KIA + 150k WIA throughout 10 years. In short, this is the biggest war in Europe since WW2. But hey, it's not war enough because not enough Ukrainians are dead or something, idk. [~] https://t.me/pechalbeda200 https://t.me/pechalbeda200 [^] https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/07/05/a-new-estimate-from-meduza-and-mediazona-shows-the-rate-of-russian-military-deaths-in-ukraine-is-only-growing https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/07/05/a-new-estimate-from-... [_] https://t.me/GeneralStaffZSU/16238 https://t.me/GeneralStaffZSU/16238
  - kjkjadksj 2y ago
    Its really not a full mobilization though. Yes 62k casualties seems like a lot. When Russia is fully mobilized in total war however, the sort of war that NATO planners fear the most, they go through millions of casualties and take over half the European continent in the process.
    - ArnoVW 2y ago
      I don't think that "number of deaths" is a proxy for "infrastructure stops working". One of the worlds (what we thought) super powers has been trying for the last two years to destroy the infrastructure of a country with 33M inhabitants. They may not have fully mobilised, but they are definitely spending all their military equipment. Long range / tactical missiles. Air assets. Naval assets. Cyber warfare. The result in Ukraine : unimaginable human suffering, but electricity and the internet are still working over there. When the nukes start flying, that's another matter though. But in that case our problem will not be that our credit cards stop working.
      - kjkjadksj 2y ago
        They are very much not sending all their equipment. They are very much not in a total war economy. The conflict is highly constrained. In an unconstrained war, Kyiv would be leveled already. Ukraine would be plowed over. Western powers have done a lot of work to set up guardrails for this conflict. The modern russian army is 1/30th the size of the red army, for reference on present level of mobilization and what is theoretically capable of being employed should russia actually be fighting a war for survival of the russian state.
        ArnoVW 2y ago
        You are again talking about mobilisation. Yes. They can enlist millions of untrained men. But in terms of total assets deployed, they are currently all-in. Attrition being what it is, they are reducing their Soviet stockpiles at a prodigious rate and are currently activating 40’s and 50’s equipment. This is all extremely well documented by open sources. People are counting tanks on military bases using satellite images. Check out Perun on YouTube. He’s a defense economics expert that posts a 70 minute PowerPoint presentation every Sunday, complete with sources and references. https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCC3ehuUksTyQ7bbjGntmx3Q https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCC3ehuUksTyQ7bbjGntmx3Q

newzisforsukas 2y ago

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2024/0703/gaza-war-palestinians-cash-atms https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2024/0703/gaza-w... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-10/gaza-faces-major-cash-shortage-after-war-destroys-banking-system https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-10/gaza-face...

makeitdouble 2y ago
It's not a war, it's a genocide. At this point it's not cash that is missing, it's absolutely everything that sustain human life, and there's probably not enough working things to even barter.

kjkjadksj 2y ago

This isn’t really all hell breaking loose actual war. If it were Kyiv would have been a ruin years ago.

AndriyKunitsyn 2y ago
Throughout this war, 62k Russians are certainly KIA because we know their names and faces [~], and estimates of total Russian KIAs vary from 120k from a Russian outlet [^] to 565k by Ukrainian Armed Forces [_]. In comparison, total KIA losses of Soviets in the Afghanistan war were 14k-26k, and Americans in the Vietnam war lost 58k KIA + 150k WIA throughout 10 years. In short, this is the biggest war in Europe since WW2. But hey, it's not war enough because not enough Ukrainians are dead or something, idk. [~] https://t.me/pechalbeda200 https://t.me/pechalbeda200 [^] https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/07/05/a-new-estimate-from-meduza-and-mediazona-shows-the-rate-of-russian-military-deaths-in-ukraine-is-only-growing https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/07/05/a-new-estimate-from-... [_] https://t.me/GeneralStaffZSU/16238 https://t.me/GeneralStaffZSU/16238
- kjkjadksj 2y ago
  Its really not a full mobilization though. Yes 62k casualties seems like a lot. When Russia is fully mobilized in total war however, the sort of war that NATO planners fear the most, they go through millions of casualties and take over half the European continent in the process.
  - ArnoVW 2y ago
    I don't think that "number of deaths" is a proxy for "infrastructure stops working". One of the worlds (what we thought) super powers has been trying for the last two years to destroy the infrastructure of a country with 33M inhabitants. They may not have fully mobilised, but they are definitely spending all their military equipment. Long range / tactical missiles. Air assets. Naval assets. Cyber warfare. The result in Ukraine : unimaginable human suffering, but electricity and the internet are still working over there. When the nukes start flying, that's another matter though. But in that case our problem will not be that our credit cards stop working.
    - kjkjadksj 2y ago
      They are very much not sending all their equipment. They are very much not in a total war economy. The conflict is highly constrained. In an unconstrained war, Kyiv would be leveled already. Ukraine would be plowed over. Western powers have done a lot of work to set up guardrails for this conflict. The modern russian army is 1/30th the size of the red army, for reference on present level of mobilization and what is theoretically capable of being employed should russia actually be fighting a war for survival of the russian state.
      - ArnoVW 2y ago
        You are again talking about mobilisation. Yes. They can enlist millions of untrained men. But in terms of total assets deployed, they are currently all-in. Attrition being what it is, they are reducing their Soviet stockpiles at a prodigious rate and are currently activating 40’s and 50’s equipment. This is all extremely well documented by open sources. People are counting tanks on military bases using satellite images. Check out Perun on YouTube. He’s a defense economics expert that posts a 70 minute PowerPoint presentation every Sunday, complete with sources and references. https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCC3ehuUksTyQ7bbjGntmx3Q https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCC3ehuUksTyQ7bbjGntmx3Q