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I also think the US education system is "broken" or close to it. Remember the recent polls saying 40% of Americans don't believe in evolution? Something is sure

by pi18n 14y ago

I also think the US education system is "broken" or close to it. Remember the recent polls saying 40% of Americans don't believe in evolution? Something is surely wrong with this picture. It is not until college level that the US performs better than other countries. And then (for the majority of people) you would need a scholarship to be able to go. K12 education has poor results and above that it is economically broken. e: I don't mean this as an attack, I just want to say I can see where the grandparent is coming from.

maratd 14y ago
> Remember the recent polls saying 40% of Americans don't believe in evolution? Something is surely wrong with this picture. Yes. You actually believing that statistic. Seriously? > It is not until college level that the US performs better than other countries. That depends on how you define performance. If you define it by creative endeavors and behavior, I would say that's patently false. How is it that such a poorly educated populace produces the most vibrant culture and economy on the plant? Must be a miracle. > And then (for the majority of people) you would need a scholarship to be able to go. The overwhelming majority take out loans or work their way through. At times, parents help out. Occasionally scholarships pay some of the way. Very rarely does a scholarship cover the entire tuition.
- jbooth 14y ago
  Why wouldn't he believe the statistic? It's a scientifically conducted poll. People answered their phone and said "Yes, I don't believe in evolution." You could make some arguments about culture vs education but I doubt those individuals are very educated, so it's an uphill battle for you. If someone says that the earth is 5,000 years old, you should take him at his word that he believes it.
- pi18n 14y ago
  > Re: Statistics I do believe it. We have governors that publicly don't accept global warming as well. > Re: Education It's not the education but the market that creates "the most vibrant culture and economy". That's why some of those contributing to our culture and economy came to do so from abroad. > Re: Tuition My point is still that it is quite a large burden, whether or not one manages to delay or share the burden.

by pi18n 14y ago

maratd 14y ago

> Remember the recent polls saying 40% of Americans don't believe in evolution? Something is surely wrong with this picture. Yes. You actually believing that statistic. Seriously? > It is not until college level that the US performs better than other countries. That depends on how you define performance. If you define it by creative endeavors and behavior, I would say that's patently false. How is it that such a poorly educated populace produces the most vibrant culture and economy on the plant? Must be a miracle. > And then (for the majority of people) you would need a scholarship to be able to go. The overwhelming majority take out loans or work their way through. At times, parents help out. Occasionally scholarships pay some of the way. Very rarely does a scholarship cover the entire tuition.

jbooth 14y ago
Why wouldn't he believe the statistic? It's a scientifically conducted poll. People answered their phone and said "Yes, I don't believe in evolution." You could make some arguments about culture vs education but I doubt those individuals are very educated, so it's an uphill battle for you. If someone says that the earth is 5,000 years old, you should take him at his word that he believes it.
pi18n 14y ago
> Re: Statistics I do believe it. We have governors that publicly don't accept global warming as well. > Re: Education It's not the education but the market that creates "the most vibrant culture and economy". That's why some of those contributing to our culture and economy came to do so from abroad. > Re: Tuition My point is still that it is quite a large burden, whether or not one manages to delay or share the burden.