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Quite a few similar submissions in the last 24 hours gained enough upvotes to show on the front page, seems like someone keeps flagging them. I'm not sure why t

Quite a few similar submissions in the last 24 hours gained enough upvotes to show on the front page, seems like someone keeps flagging them. I'm not sure why though, I think the discussion about the similarities and potential reasons behind these events could prove interesting. This post is not even on the first four pages despite ~20 upvotes within an hour, from experience this takes quite a few flags

politelemon 2y ago
Yes would be interesting to know what policy implementations or directions could have been common factors between the two companies which led to these incidents.
- blowski 2y ago
  Yes, I'd be interested to hear that. From initial reports, it sounds like under-investment in QA because of over-confidence in automated QC. It's an example of a "black swan" or Bertrand Russell's chicken - the same process has worked many times, leading people to make the false conclusion that the risk has become neglible. There's a successful trial period in which the beancounters reduce headcount with no negative consequences. So the trial becomes permanent, people become less careful. And then boom. They miss that a 1 in 10000 occurence is going to happen eventually, and that "unnecessary expense" which was previously there to mitigate it has now been removed.
pvg 2y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41007084 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41007084 The similarities are basically coincidence - the rather confected connection doesn't tell you much about either event and the most recent one is in active discussion on the front page already.
- chrisjj 2y ago
  The significance may be confected, but the connection certainly is not, being a matter of public record.
  - pvg 2y ago
    Sure, we can slice that way if you prefer it but it doesn't make it a more interesting or non-repetitive thing to discuss. Beside there being a place to talk about it if you see it differently.
- rurban 2y ago
  It tells you that the fish stinks from the head
  - pvg 2y ago
    I'm not sure 'head technical salesperson at one company became head investor salesperson at another company' is at all necessary to derive that particular and well-worn theory of ichthyo-decay. If the argument is 'we ought to have a thread dunking on this person', I don't think you'll have to wait long, there will surely be several, as this story develops.
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politelemon 2y ago

Yes would be interesting to know what policy implementations or directions could have been common factors between the two companies which led to these incidents.

blowski 2y ago
Yes, I'd be interested to hear that. From initial reports, it sounds like under-investment in QA because of over-confidence in automated QC. It's an example of a "black swan" or Bertrand Russell's chicken - the same process has worked many times, leading people to make the false conclusion that the risk has become neglible. There's a successful trial period in which the beancounters reduce headcount with no negative consequences. So the trial becomes permanent, people become less careful. And then boom. They miss that a 1 in 10000 occurence is going to happen eventually, and that "unnecessary expense" which was previously there to mitigate it has now been removed.

pvg 2y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41007084 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41007084 The similarities are basically coincidence - the rather confected connection doesn't tell you much about either event and the most recent one is in active discussion on the front page already.

chrisjj 2y ago
The significance may be confected, but the connection certainly is not, being a matter of public record.
- pvg 2y ago
  Sure, we can slice that way if you prefer it but it doesn't make it a more interesting or non-repetitive thing to discuss. Beside there being a place to talk about it if you see it differently.
rurban 2y ago
It tells you that the fish stinks from the head
- pvg 2y ago
  I'm not sure 'head technical salesperson at one company became head investor salesperson at another company' is at all necessary to derive that particular and well-worn theory of ichthyo-decay. If the argument is 'we ought to have a thread dunking on this person', I don't think you'll have to wait long, there will surely be several, as this story develops.

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