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you might be interested in https://github.com/perkeep/perkeep https://github.com/perkeep/perkeep

didntcheck 2y ago
Or some even older prior art (which I recall a Perkeep dev citing as an influence in a conference talk) http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/venti/ http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/venti/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venti_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venti_(software)
- j-pb 2y ago
  Yeah, there are pleanty of dead and abandoned projects in this space. Maybe the concept is worthless without a tool for metadata management? Also I should probably have specified that by "missing" I mean, "there is nothing well maintained and production grade" ^^'
skinkestek 2y ago
Perkeep has (at least until last I checked it) the very interesting property of being completely impossible for me to make heads or tails of while also looking extremely interesting and useful. So in the hope of triggering someone to give me the missing link (maybe even a hyperlink) for me to understand it, here is a the situation: I'm a SW dev that also have done a lot of sysadmin work. Yes, I have managed to install it. And that is about it. There seems to be so many features there but I really really don't understand how I am supposed to use the product or the documentation for that matter. I could start an import of Twitter or something else an it kind of shows up. Same with anything else: photos etc. It clearly does something but it was impossible to understand what I am supposed to do next, both from the ui and also from the docs.
- lockyc 2y ago
  I agree 100%
- breakingcups 2y ago
  Perkeep is such a cool, interesting concept, but it seems like it's on life-support. If I'm not mistaken, it used to be funded by creator Brad Fitz, who could afford to hire a full-time developer on his Google salary, but that time has sadly passed. It suffers from having so many cool use-cases that it struggles to find a balance in presentation.
- tgulacsi 2y ago
  Beside personal photo store, I use the storage part for file store at work (basically, indexing is off), with a simplifying wrapper for upload/download: github.com/tgulacsi/camproxy With the adaptive block hashing (varying block sizes), it beats gzip for compression.
- mdaniel 2y ago
  I was curious to see if I could help, and I wondered if you saw their mailing list? It seems to have some folks complaining about things they wish it did, which strangely enough is often a good indication of what it currently does There's also "Show Parkeep"-ish posts like this one <https://groups.google.com/g/perkeep/c/mHoUUcBz2Yw https://groups.google.com/g/perkeep/c/mHoUUcBz2Yw> where the user made their own Pocket implementation complete with original page snapshotting The thing that most stood out to me was the number of folks who wanted to use Parkeep to manage its own content AND serve as the metadata system of record for external content (think: an existing MP3 library owned by an inflexible media player such as iTunes). So between that and your "import Twitter" comment, it seems one of its current hurdles is that the use case one might have for a system like this needs to be "all in" otherwise it becomes the same problem as a removable USB drive for storing stuff: "oh, damn, is that on my computer or on the external drive?"
j-pb 2y ago
Yeah I've been following it on and off since it was camli-store. Maybe it tried to do too much at once and didn't focus on just the blob part enough, but I feel like it never really reached a coherent state and story.

Or some even older prior art (which I recall a Perkeep dev citing as an influence in a conference talk) http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/venti/ http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/venti/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venti_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venti_(software)

j-pb 2y ago
Yeah, there are pleanty of dead and abandoned projects in this space. Maybe the concept is worthless without a tool for metadata management? Also I should probably have specified that by "missing" I mean, "there is nothing well maintained and production grade" ^^'

skinkestek 2y ago

Perkeep has (at least until last I checked it) the very interesting property of being completely impossible for me to make heads or tails of while also looking extremely interesting and useful. So in the hope of triggering someone to give me the missing link (maybe even a hyperlink) for me to understand it, here is a the situation: I'm a SW dev that also have done a lot of sysadmin work. Yes, I have managed to install it. And that is about it. There seems to be so many features there but I really really don't understand how I am supposed to use the product or the documentation for that matter. I could start an import of Twitter or something else an it kind of shows up. Same with anything else: photos etc. It clearly does something but it was impossible to understand what I am supposed to do next, both from the ui and also from the docs.

lockyc 2y ago
I agree 100%
breakingcups 2y ago
Perkeep is such a cool, interesting concept, but it seems like it's on life-support. If I'm not mistaken, it used to be funded by creator Brad Fitz, who could afford to hire a full-time developer on his Google salary, but that time has sadly passed. It suffers from having so many cool use-cases that it struggles to find a balance in presentation.
tgulacsi 2y ago
Beside personal photo store, I use the storage part for file store at work (basically, indexing is off), with a simplifying wrapper for upload/download: github.com/tgulacsi/camproxy With the adaptive block hashing (varying block sizes), it beats gzip for compression.
mdaniel 2y ago
I was curious to see if I could help, and I wondered if you saw their mailing list? It seems to have some folks complaining about things they wish it did, which strangely enough is often a good indication of what it currently does There's also "Show Parkeep"-ish posts like this one <https://groups.google.com/g/perkeep/c/mHoUUcBz2Yw https://groups.google.com/g/perkeep/c/mHoUUcBz2Yw> where the user made their own Pocket implementation complete with original page snapshotting The thing that most stood out to me was the number of folks who wanted to use Parkeep to manage its own content AND serve as the metadata system of record for external content (think: an existing MP3 library owned by an inflexible media player such as iTunes). So between that and your "import Twitter" comment, it seems one of its current hurdles is that the use case one might have for a system like this needs to be "all in" otherwise it becomes the same problem as a removable USB drive for storing stuff: "oh, damn, is that on my computer or on the external drive?"

j-pb 2y ago

Yeah I've been following it on and off since it was camli-store. Maybe it tried to do too much at once and didn't focus on just the blob part enough, but I feel like it never really reached a coherent state and story.