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I was going to disagree with the article because the content 4o-mini generates isn't there yet. I run a content site that is fully AI generated, https://tryspe

I was going to disagree with the article because the content 4o-mini generates isn't there yet. I run a content site that is fully AI generated, https://tryspellbound.com https://tryspellbound.com It writes content that's worth reading, but it's extremely expensive to run. It requires chain of thought, a RAG pipeline, self-revision and more. I spent most of yesterday testing it and pushed it to beta, but the writing feels stilted and clearly LLM generated. The inflection point will come for content people actually want to read, but it's not going to be GPT-4o mini.

RockRobotRock 2y ago
I had a lot of fun with NovelAI. I believe at the time it was using GPT2, and I loaded in fine tuned models for the canon of choice I wanted to experience (trained on fanfic, and things of that sort). How does spellbound work?
- selalipop 2y ago
  Spellbound is an instruct model to NovelAI's completion model: you enter commands which in turn dictate what happens to your character, then the AI models how others would react to you
mort96 2y ago
The point isn't to generate good content "that's worth reading". The point is to generate an endless stream of slop which looks plausible enough to get you ad impressions.
- selalipop 2y ago
  That's picking up pennies in front of a steam roller: Google is incentivized to punish you when the content is garbage, and people are disincentivized to share what you generate. It's an entirely different game once you can generate useful content worth reading with AI. People will even pay you good money for it.
  - mort96 2y ago
    I don't know what makes you think that Google is incentivised to punish garbage. They certainly don't seem to mind seeing up an endless stream of slop for certain kinds of queries. I don't understand why they'd be more incentivised to serve SEO'd human generated slop than SEO'd machine generated slop.
    - selalipop 2y ago
      If you actually look into the "SEO slop", they're constantly fighting a battle with Google to keep their place. It's all garbage so no one notices when some of it suddenly disappears off the face of the earth and gets replaced with other garbage: but for the ones making it, their revenue essentially goes to 0 overnight.
swyx 2y ago
TIL about spellbound. i see you just launched 2 months ago and already have a careers page with 4 jobs... are you making that much money already??
- selalipop 2y ago
  technically launched 6+ months ago, but yeah current form of it did "re-launch" 2 months ago Making good revenue but mostly I'm just very bullish based on current revenue and willing to bootstrap

RockRobotRock 2y ago

I had a lot of fun with NovelAI. I believe at the time it was using GPT2, and I loaded in fine tuned models for the canon of choice I wanted to experience (trained on fanfic, and things of that sort). How does spellbound work?

selalipop 2y ago
Spellbound is an instruct model to NovelAI's completion model: you enter commands which in turn dictate what happens to your character, then the AI models how others would react to you

mort96 2y ago

The point isn't to generate good content "that's worth reading". The point is to generate an endless stream of slop which looks plausible enough to get you ad impressions.

selalipop 2y ago
That's picking up pennies in front of a steam roller: Google is incentivized to punish you when the content is garbage, and people are disincentivized to share what you generate. It's an entirely different game once you can generate useful content worth reading with AI. People will even pay you good money for it.
- mort96 2y ago
  I don't know what makes you think that Google is incentivised to punish garbage. They certainly don't seem to mind seeing up an endless stream of slop for certain kinds of queries. I don't understand why they'd be more incentivised to serve SEO'd human generated slop than SEO'd machine generated slop.
  - selalipop 2y ago
    If you actually look into the "SEO slop", they're constantly fighting a battle with Google to keep their place. It's all garbage so no one notices when some of it suddenly disappears off the face of the earth and gets replaced with other garbage: but for the ones making it, their revenue essentially goes to 0 overnight.

swyx 2y ago

TIL about spellbound. i see you just launched 2 months ago and already have a careers page with 4 jobs... are you making that much money already??

selalipop 2y ago
technically launched 6+ months ago, but yeah current form of it did "re-launch" 2 months ago Making good revenue but mostly I'm just very bullish based on current revenue and willing to bootstrap