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> A "workaround" isn't an adequate substitute for actual the understanding and fixing of the root cause of a bug. Right, hence why we recognize that a 10x deve

> A "workaround" isn't an adequate substitute for actual the understanding and fixing of the root cause of a bug. Right, hence why we recognize that a 10x developer is a weaker developer. Was there something that implied that a weak developer is a substitute for a talented developer for you to say this, or are you just pulling words out of thin air?

gouggoug 2y ago
Merely arguing about your _definition_ of 10x engineer and 1x engineer. Your original comment at the top of the thread implies the engineer who wrote the blog post is a 1x engineer because they spent so much time finding and fixing this bug.
- randomdata 2y ago
  Yes, and as the comment before it asserts, most engineers would never take that kind of time. They'd bang out some workaround as quickly as possible and move on with life. But my original comment at the top also praised the value of the 1x engineer; noting that the rest of us could learn a thing or two from them. There is no denying that 1x developers are the better developers. The question remains outstanding: Where did you pick up the suggestion that the quick fix is a suitable replacement for the talented engineers who can fully understand a problem that prompted the rebuttal?
  - gouggoug 2y ago
    Guess I misinterpreted your comment ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, relax.
kragen 2y ago
'a weaker developer' is the opposite of the standard definition of 'a 10x developer'. if you are going to use phrases to mean the opposite of their conventional meaning you should warn people so they can avoid arguing with you on the assumption that you're using them to mean what everyone else uses them to mean
- randomdata 2y ago
  Why should I do that? An "argument" about nothing is hilarious.
  - samatman 2y ago
    > Why should I do that? Because what you chose to do instead is exceptionally obnoxious behavior, which degrades the quality of discourse on this site.
    - kragen 2y ago
      agreed, thanks
    - randomdata 2y ago
      Why is the onus on me to try and hold back those who don't know how to think straight from getting into an argument with a straw man? They could, you know, just not do it. Rather than encourage a dumbing down the content to the lowest common denominator, why not encourage those with low comprehension to not get into arguments in the first place? Dumbing down the content does not improve the quality of discourse. That is a entirely flawed notion. Hacker News is decidedly intended for a hacker audience, not an audience of high school debate team hopefuls. There should be no harm in speaking to hackers at their level.
  - bheadmaster 2y ago
    This comment reminds me of my 10 years old sister. She finds pointless arguments hilarious too.
classified 2y ago
Are you working on a diploma in douchebaggery? Good news, you're succeding.

gouggoug 2y ago

Merely arguing about your _definition_ of 10x engineer and 1x engineer. Your original comment at the top of the thread implies the engineer who wrote the blog post is a 1x engineer because they spent so much time finding and fixing this bug.

randomdata 2y ago
Yes, and as the comment before it asserts, most engineers would never take that kind of time. They'd bang out some workaround as quickly as possible and move on with life. But my original comment at the top also praised the value of the 1x engineer; noting that the rest of us could learn a thing or two from them. There is no denying that 1x developers are the better developers. The question remains outstanding: Where did you pick up the suggestion that the quick fix is a suitable replacement for the talented engineers who can fully understand a problem that prompted the rebuttal?
- gouggoug 2y ago
  Guess I misinterpreted your comment ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, relax.

kragen 2y ago

'a weaker developer' is the opposite of the standard definition of 'a 10x developer'. if you are going to use phrases to mean the opposite of their conventional meaning you should warn people so they can avoid arguing with you on the assumption that you're using them to mean what everyone else uses them to mean

randomdata 2y ago
Why should I do that? An "argument" about nothing is hilarious.
- samatman 2y ago
  > Why should I do that? Because what you chose to do instead is exceptionally obnoxious behavior, which degrades the quality of discourse on this site.
  - kragen 2y ago
    agreed, thanks
  - randomdata 2y ago
    Why is the onus on me to try and hold back those who don't know how to think straight from getting into an argument with a straw man? They could, you know, just not do it. Rather than encourage a dumbing down the content to the lowest common denominator, why not encourage those with low comprehension to not get into arguments in the first place? Dumbing down the content does not improve the quality of discourse. That is a entirely flawed notion. Hacker News is decidedly intended for a hacker audience, not an audience of high school debate team hopefuls. There should be no harm in speaking to hackers at their level.
- bheadmaster 2y ago
  This comment reminds me of my 10 years old sister. She finds pointless arguments hilarious too.

classified 2y ago

Are you working on a diploma in douchebaggery? Good news, you're succeding.