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Don't even bring your phone with you. You need to use old school methods to avoid tracking.

by millzlane 2y ago

azinman2 2y ago
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- JKCalhoun 2y ago
  I've been using this technique for some time now and it has been working really well.
  - dylan604 2y ago
    Here's a list of people that have strong disagree[0]. What about those that have been falsely identified by facial recognition software? Just because you think you've committed no crime doesn't mean the authorities have the same thought. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wrongful_convictions_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wrongful_convictions_i...
    - marginalia_nu 2y ago
      So the updated advice is to not bring the phone when you're not about to commit a crime.
      - dylan604 2y ago
        that's also been updated as not being the greatest advice as they can use the lack of activity for that time period as being abnormal for you device which show suspicion as well. just like not having any social media accounts looks suspicious. having a laptop with no data on it what so ever looks suspicious. if they want to find you as a suspect, they will find ways of doing it.
        gruez 2y ago
        >that's also been updated as not being the greatest advice as they can use the lack of activity for that time period as being abnormal for you device which show suspicion as well. If you're a NEET or wfh is it really suspicious that your phone hasn't moved the entire day?
      - deleted 2y ago
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- krapp 2y ago
  “One has not only a legal, but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” – Martin Luther King, Jr.
  - marginalia_nu 2y ago
    And that's why Socrates didn't drink the hemlock.
    - adolph 2y ago
      And the Tootsie Pop Owl didn't bite
    - krapp 2y ago
      You're free to interpret your relationship with your government as a suicide pact if it pleases you. Others are not obligated to drink the poison of obsequious virtue.
    - mrguyorama 2y ago
      The guy that was upset younger people were reading books instead of memorizing things, and believed that would make people dumb, and literally ruin the next generation of the world? Yeah maybe he wasn't infinitely wise on all things.
  - GeoAtreides 2y ago
    Now, if we only had a test to distinguish between just and unjust laws.
    - krapp 2y ago
      Is your argument that we must obey all laws at all times, because a definition of "justice" cannot be given with the rigor of a mathematical proof? How then can law itself exist, without a means of objective interpretation? And why obey laws at all if no test exists by which any law can be determined to be either just or unjust? You can find thousands of years of scholarship, philosophy, religion and legal doctrine on the matter, and most people seem capable of coming to at least a subjective conclusion on what is and isn't just, apart from what is and isn't legal.
- bitwize 2y ago
  How not to get your ass kicked by the police, step 1: OBEY THE LAW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
  - a0123 2y ago
    An argument that could only be made by someone who's never read the news ever. Or dealt with police ever.
  - Volundr 2y ago
    That video probably isn't making the point your trying to make, given that it repeatedly shows people getting beaten by police for things that definitely don't warrant it, and towards the end advises "getting a white friend" as a means of avoiding police brutality.
- hagbard_c 2y ago
  Qu'on me donne six lignes écrites de la main du plus honnête homme, j'y trouverai de quoi le faire pendre. [1] Richelieu may have said this or he may not have but the fact stands that there are enough laws on the books to convict anyone of a crime no matter how virtuous that person thinks he is. [1] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cardinal_Richelieu https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cardinal_Richelieu
dist-epoch 2y ago
But if you leave your phone at home only on the days you commit crimes, it's a problem too. This was used in the past to identify people.
- mingus88 2y ago
  ALPR is the other big one. Your daily habits are in many databases and it’s easier than ever to sort out the outliers
  - lysp 2y ago
    I read this story many years ago where researchers were able to re-identify people using open travel datasets. https://www.unimelb.edu.au/newsroom/news/2019/august/myki-privacy-de-railed-travellers-movements-and-identities-at-risk-by-public-release-of-anonymised-data https://www.unimelb.edu.au/newsroom/news/2019/august/myki-pr...

Don't even bring your phone with you. You need to use old school methods to avoid tracking.

azinman2 2y ago

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JKCalhoun 2y ago
I've been using this technique for some time now and it has been working really well.
- dylan604 2y ago
  Here's a list of people that have strong disagree[0]. What about those that have been falsely identified by facial recognition software? Just because you think you've committed no crime doesn't mean the authorities have the same thought. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wrongful_convictions_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wrongful_convictions_i...
  - marginalia_nu 2y ago
    So the updated advice is to not bring the phone when you're not about to commit a crime.
    - dylan604 2y ago
      that's also been updated as not being the greatest advice as they can use the lack of activity for that time period as being abnormal for you device which show suspicion as well. just like not having any social media accounts looks suspicious. having a laptop with no data on it what so ever looks suspicious. if they want to find you as a suspect, they will find ways of doing it.
      - gruez 2y ago
        >that's also been updated as not being the greatest advice as they can use the lack of activity for that time period as being abnormal for you device which show suspicion as well. If you're a NEET or wfh is it really suspicious that your phone hasn't moved the entire day?
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
krapp 2y ago
“One has not only a legal, but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” – Martin Luther King, Jr.
- marginalia_nu 2y ago
  And that's why Socrates didn't drink the hemlock.
  - adolph 2y ago
    And the Tootsie Pop Owl didn't bite
  - krapp 2y ago
    You're free to interpret your relationship with your government as a suicide pact if it pleases you. Others are not obligated to drink the poison of obsequious virtue.
  - mrguyorama 2y ago
    The guy that was upset younger people were reading books instead of memorizing things, and believed that would make people dumb, and literally ruin the next generation of the world? Yeah maybe he wasn't infinitely wise on all things.
- GeoAtreides 2y ago
  Now, if we only had a test to distinguish between just and unjust laws.
  - krapp 2y ago
    Is your argument that we must obey all laws at all times, because a definition of "justice" cannot be given with the rigor of a mathematical proof? How then can law itself exist, without a means of objective interpretation? And why obey laws at all if no test exists by which any law can be determined to be either just or unjust? You can find thousands of years of scholarship, philosophy, religion and legal doctrine on the matter, and most people seem capable of coming to at least a subjective conclusion on what is and isn't just, apart from what is and isn't legal.
bitwize 2y ago
How not to get your ass kicked by the police, step 1: OBEY THE LAW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
- a0123 2y ago
  An argument that could only be made by someone who's never read the news ever. Or dealt with police ever.
- Volundr 2y ago
  That video probably isn't making the point your trying to make, given that it repeatedly shows people getting beaten by police for things that definitely don't warrant it, and towards the end advises "getting a white friend" as a means of avoiding police brutality.
hagbard_c 2y ago
Qu'on me donne six lignes écrites de la main du plus honnête homme, j'y trouverai de quoi le faire pendre. [1] Richelieu may have said this or he may not have but the fact stands that there are enough laws on the books to convict anyone of a crime no matter how virtuous that person thinks he is. [1] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cardinal_Richelieu https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cardinal_Richelieu

dist-epoch 2y ago

But if you leave your phone at home only on the days you commit crimes, it's a problem too. This was used in the past to identify people.

mingus88 2y ago
ALPR is the other big one. Your daily habits are in many databases and it’s easier than ever to sort out the outliers
- lysp 2y ago
  I read this story many years ago where researchers were able to re-identify people using open travel datasets. https://www.unimelb.edu.au/newsroom/news/2019/august/myki-privacy-de-railed-travellers-movements-and-identities-at-risk-by-public-release-of-anonymised-data https://www.unimelb.edu.au/newsroom/news/2019/august/myki-pr...