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MSFT will be fine. They are riding the AI waves, this is not meaningful, especially since they are not at fault.

Cthulhu_ 2y ago
It may not be their fault directly but it is causing Windows systems to bluescreen, which IS their fault and their responsibility, ultimately.
- hulitu 2y ago
  Windows blue screen was never Microsoft's responsibility. /s
- echoangle 2y ago
  How is it their fault and responsibility? Isn’t falcon sensor basically running like a kernel module? Does it mean that Windows is not engineered properly when it can be crashed by this?
- wwtrv 2y ago
  Are you saying that they should prevent or limit the ability of their users from installing third party software? Or at the very least prevent it from running in kernel mode?
  - rocqua 2y ago
    A more reasonable claim would be that microsoft should have a way to allow virus-scanners to run without needing to be able to crash the kernel. That isn't an easy thing to do, but it should be possible.
    - bdd8f1df777b 2y ago
      I don't think that is possible. How can an anti-virus not in kernel mode defend against viruses running in kernel mode then?
      - rocqua 2y ago
        Ebpf can, I believe, not crash the Kernel
oska 2y ago
The waves that are already looking like a storm in a teacup ? There is no 'AI', that is always only hype. There is machine learning, which is a very powerful technology but I doubt MSFT will be leading that revolution. As for LLMs, MSFT might have some competitiveness there but I doubt it's going to be a very lucrative market. MSFT is highly overvalued.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago
  << There is no 'AI', that is always only hype. There is machine learning, which is a very powerful technology I agree with you on the technical aspect, but the distinction makes regular people eyes glaze over within 5 seconds of that explanation. AI as a label for this is here to stay the same way cyber stopped meaning text sex of IRC. The people have spoken. << MSFT is highly overvalued. Yes, but so is NVDA, the entire stock exchange and US real estate market. We are obviously due for a major correction and have been for a while. As in, I actually moved stuff around in my 401k to soften the blow in that event 2 years ago now. edit: yes, I am a little miffed I missed out on that ride. So far, everything was done to prevent hard crash and in the election year, that is unlikely to change. Now after the election, that is another story altogether. << I doubt MSFT will be leading that revolution. I think I agree. I remain mildly hopeful that the open model approach is the way.
  - oska 2y ago
    > Now after the election, that is another story altogether. Agree. First half of 2025 could be pretty spectacular (if/when we get through 2024). I suspect there might be some pretty radical plans for US debt monetisation being drawn up, to be implemented early in the new presidential term.
    - throaway920181 2y ago
      My brain goes there too, but the other part of my brain says "line always goes up." The richest among us are heavy owners of stocks, and this country does everything it can to keep those numbers up. Look at that insane COVID V-shaped recovery that happened. That's just not a real/natural market reaction in my book.

It may not be their fault directly but it is causing Windows systems to bluescreen, which IS their fault and their responsibility, ultimately.

hulitu 2y ago
Windows blue screen was never Microsoft's responsibility. /s
echoangle 2y ago
How is it their fault and responsibility? Isn’t falcon sensor basically running like a kernel module? Does it mean that Windows is not engineered properly when it can be crashed by this?
wwtrv 2y ago
Are you saying that they should prevent or limit the ability of their users from installing third party software? Or at the very least prevent it from running in kernel mode?
- rocqua 2y ago
  A more reasonable claim would be that microsoft should have a way to allow virus-scanners to run without needing to be able to crash the kernel. That isn't an easy thing to do, but it should be possible.
  - bdd8f1df777b 2y ago
    I don't think that is possible. How can an anti-virus not in kernel mode defend against viruses running in kernel mode then?
    - rocqua 2y ago
      Ebpf can, I believe, not crash the Kernel

oska 2y ago

The waves that are already looking like a storm in a teacup ? There is no 'AI', that is always only hype. There is machine learning, which is a very powerful technology but I doubt MSFT will be leading that revolution. As for LLMs, MSFT might have some competitiveness there but I doubt it's going to be a very lucrative market. MSFT is highly overvalued.

A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago
<< There is no 'AI', that is always only hype. There is machine learning, which is a very powerful technology I agree with you on the technical aspect, but the distinction makes regular people eyes glaze over within 5 seconds of that explanation. AI as a label for this is here to stay the same way cyber stopped meaning text sex of IRC. The people have spoken. << MSFT is highly overvalued. Yes, but so is NVDA, the entire stock exchange and US real estate market. We are obviously due for a major correction and have been for a while. As in, I actually moved stuff around in my 401k to soften the blow in that event 2 years ago now. edit: yes, I am a little miffed I missed out on that ride. So far, everything was done to prevent hard crash and in the election year, that is unlikely to change. Now after the election, that is another story altogether. << I doubt MSFT will be leading that revolution. I think I agree. I remain mildly hopeful that the open model approach is the way.
- oska 2y ago
  > Now after the election, that is another story altogether. Agree. First half of 2025 could be pretty spectacular (if/when we get through 2024). I suspect there might be some pretty radical plans for US debt monetisation being drawn up, to be implemented early in the new presidential term.
  - throaway920181 2y ago
    My brain goes there too, but the other part of my brain says "line always goes up." The richest among us are heavy owners of stocks, and this country does everything it can to keep those numbers up. Look at that insane COVID V-shaped recovery that happened. That's just not a real/natural market reaction in my book.