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How do you deal with the ethics of duplicating someone's text where it can be reproduced? You probably treat text like it is not the real person until confirmed

How do you deal with the ethics of duplicating someone's text where it can be reproduced? You probably treat text like it is not the real person until confirmed in other ways. Welcome to the future where you'd have to update that trust and understanding around voice regardless or give that power of misunderstanding to the elite few.

yuuuzeee 2y ago
do we have free will or it's a sequence-based model trigging all these lol
nullindividual 2y ago
> You probably treat text like it is not the real person until confirmed in other ways. I would appreciate if the question could be answered instead of avoided and misdirected.
- Arnt 2y ago
  You sound as if the only answer that would satisfy you is "we'll turn back the clock". It's not going to happen. The only question is whether we're going to have open source solutions, visible to everyone, or whether this kind of thing is going to be available only from shady companies like Cellebrite.
  - nullindividual 2y ago
    > You sound as if the only answer that would satisfy you is "we'll turn back the clock". There are methods to manage risk that don't involve turning back the clock. The open source creators /and/ shady companies have responsibility for the tooling they release, just like any other company has responsibility for any potential harm, be it to the environment, infrastructure, or the public that they create.
    - Arnt 2y ago
      There are such things? Fine. Please go and use them to manage Cellebrite, then.
      - nullindividual 2y ago
        I'm not sure what kind of response this is, but it's unproductive and doesn't address anything I've said. Yes, there are such things to manage risk, such as insurance. Open source maintainers aren't protected from legal scrutiny or civil suits simply because the software is open source. Given the amount of false information spreading like wildfire on social media, one would think they would want to protect themselves as much as possible when releasing tooling such as this.
- unraveller 2y ago
  We should appreciate new abuse vectors becoming more well-known and releasing their stuff does help with that. What pranksters do with any new tech vs. public misunderstanding arbitrage comes down to the ethics of the prankster.

yuuuzeee 2y ago

do we have free will or it's a sequence-based model trigging all these lol

nullindividual 2y ago

> You probably treat text like it is not the real person until confirmed in other ways. I would appreciate if the question could be answered instead of avoided and misdirected.

Arnt 2y ago
You sound as if the only answer that would satisfy you is "we'll turn back the clock". It's not going to happen. The only question is whether we're going to have open source solutions, visible to everyone, or whether this kind of thing is going to be available only from shady companies like Cellebrite.
- nullindividual 2y ago
  > You sound as if the only answer that would satisfy you is "we'll turn back the clock". There are methods to manage risk that don't involve turning back the clock. The open source creators /and/ shady companies have responsibility for the tooling they release, just like any other company has responsibility for any potential harm, be it to the environment, infrastructure, or the public that they create.
  - Arnt 2y ago
    There are such things? Fine. Please go and use them to manage Cellebrite, then.
    - nullindividual 2y ago
      I'm not sure what kind of response this is, but it's unproductive and doesn't address anything I've said. Yes, there are such things to manage risk, such as insurance. Open source maintainers aren't protected from legal scrutiny or civil suits simply because the software is open source. Given the amount of false information spreading like wildfire on social media, one would think they would want to protect themselves as much as possible when releasing tooling such as this.
unraveller 2y ago
We should appreciate new abuse vectors becoming more well-known and releasing their stuff does help with that. What pranksters do with any new tech vs. public misunderstanding arbitrage comes down to the ethics of the prankster.