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Nope. No one is telling them this because everyone is either scared to do so or is trapped in a hedonistic self-oriented conception of happiness. This is my a
by recursivedoubts 2y ago
Nope. No one is telling them this because everyone is either scared to do so or is trapped in a hedonistic self-oriented conception of happiness.
This is my advice, I am sincere in it and I feel that, given their presentation of the facts of their life, it is likely to be the most effective way to grow as a human. Note that I do mention that it will give them purpose and suffering, not happiness as they current conceive of it.
- pavel_lishin 2y agoI have a child. I very specifically wanted to have a child with my spouse, and every day I'm glad I did it. I don't suggest doing it to people as a form of therapy. Your advice is bad.
- recursivedoubts 2y agowho said anything about therapy? i offered only suffering and purpose.
- pavel_lishin 2y agoOther people in the thread. I don't think this conversation is useful past this point.
- recursivedoubts 2y agoI agree. And I do want to thank you for engaging me in good faith and relatively politely despite your opinion on my advice.
- rlue 2y ago“Everyone who disagrees with me is wrong. But if you take this irreversible life choice that lots of people actually regret, I sincerely feel that you are likely to see the light.” People shouldn’t have kids to soothe their existential malaise; they should have kids because they actually want to devote their lives to nurturing another living thing. They are not a prop for your personal growth. This is really, really harmful advice. FWIW given the rigidity of your thinking, I would really hate to be your kid by the time I started having opinions of my own. P.S. You being out here responding to every single comment without hesitation and not reconsidering your position in the slightest is a sign of bad thinking.
- astura 2y ago>FWIW given the rigidity of your thinking, I would really hate to be your kid by the time I started having opinions of my own. Can confirm, it's torture.
- recursivedoubts 2y agoi asked my sons how, given the rigidity of my thinking, it was being my, er, son: "fine", "great" & "awesome" of course there are many issues with this poll, i will not debate that fact, but at least we now have some data to work with!
- antisthenes 2y ago> P.S. You being out here responding to every single comment without hesitation and not reconsidering your position in the slightest is a sign of bad thinking. Funny. You make a snide remark to OP "Everyone who disagrees with me is wrong." and immediately follow it up with "here's this opinion I disagree with that is bad thinking, because they don't immediately change it based on a few comments from internet strangers". I really, really, hope you see the hypocrisy here.
- rlue 2y agoYou’re right; what I should have said was “everyone who disagrees with me is operating from a morally inferior value system!” but that’s not as pithy. In case you’d prefer something more prosaic: there is a difference between stating a contrary position and implying that other people’s positions indicate a defective worldview from which they should seek to free themselves. Or, more simply, there’s a difference between attacking a point and attacking a person. I would also add that your last point is a bit of a straw man. I can scarcely clarify except by restating my point: spamming a thread with kneejerk retorts instead of taking the time to reflect on someone’s criticism is a dialectical red flag.
- nunez 2y agoYou don't need to produce children to have purpose. This advice is reckless.