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There will be tariffs both in US and EU for protecting against Chinese EVs, so there's little pressure for them to hurry on the EV roadmap.

• Rinzler89 2y ago
  >hurry on the EV roadmap It's the charging infrastructure that's lacking and the affordable used market, not their EV roadmaps. Currently EVs are best for those with charger at home which gives them cheap running costs (especailly with solar panels at home) and peace of mind of car always being fully charged at your disposal. But those without chargers at home are fucked with an overpriced and half the time broken public infrastructure that makes life much more miserable than with ICE cars. EV sales have slowed down not because the EV roadmap, but because the market of users with home chargers has begun to saturate, so now you need to improve public charging to break into the demographic without chargers at home, but since nobody wants to do that, neither car manufacturers, nor the governments, turning EV infrastructure investment into this hot potato, meaning EV adoption is at a stalemate. Blaming slow EV sales on the EV roadmap without thinking of public infrastructure would be like blaming lackluster smartphone roadmaps when networks are still stuck on 2G.
  • floxy 2y ago
    >EV sales have slowed down not because the EV roadmap, but because the market of users with home chargers has begun to saturate In this age-of-big-data, is there a way to quantify this? https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/q2-2024-ev-sales/ https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/q2-2024-ev-sales/
    • Rinzler89 2y ago
      >In this age-of-big-data, is there a way to quantify this? Not sure exactly (I don't live in the US), but not every consumer opinion everywhere or behavior can be 100% easily quantified with a quick Google search or a simple big data query, the way HN loves. Sometimes it's more complicated that the data available and it's just easier to ask consumers since people vote with their wallets and consumers aren't stupid to leave money on the table if EVs ownership were a monetary net benefit for them. I just looked at the EV infrastructure around me, how people use their ICE cars, and the pros and cons of switching to EVs now, with home charging and without home charging. Call it an anecdote if you will, but I'm as middle class as it gets(no house ownership, ICE car owner), so if EV ownership sucks for me, it probably also sucks for everyone else like me, and since so there's a lot of me out there in this country where I live, then my anecdote is pretty representative without or without big data.
      • floxy 2y ago
        Seems like ~17% of Americans live in condos or apartments. https://www.builderonline.com/money/economics/80-percent-of-americans-prefer-single-family-homeownership_o https://www.builderonline.com/money/economics/80-percent-of-...
        • Rinzler89 2y ago
          Like I said before, I don't live in the US, I live in EU where the majority live in apartments, which is where my argument applies.