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It's hard to consider Jobs as sociopathic in the large when he created so much social value. And it's hard to imagine that he would have been quite so effective
by delichon 2y ago
It's hard to consider Jobs as sociopathic in the large when he created so much social value. And it's hard to imagine that he would have been quite so effective if he were more agreeable. So I think it's reasonable to consider the kind of rudeness that gets big things done at the cost of hurt feelings as something other than pathological.
- paxcoder 2y agoIf goodness is a necessary sacrifice for something, that something, whatever it may be, is not worth the sacrifice
- insane_dreamer 2y ago> rudeness that gets big things done I think this is a myth, that major accomplishments require running roughshod over people. We also have a twisted idea of what "major accomplishments" are. Are Walmart and Amazon being supremely dominant in their industries, build on the back of wiping out much of small town America, and worker mistreatment, an "accomplishment"?
- delichon 2y agoThe iPhone was a major accomplishment. Its design was influenced by Jobs' ability to inform people when their work was not insanely great. Maybe he could have done that more gently. But lacking that rare talent it was a social good for him to do that anyway.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoYeah, not disagreeing with any of that. My contention is that it's not a _prerequisite_ to great accomplishments.