>Humans and orcas both seem to benefit from them in many ways. For a second, I thought you wrote "humans and orcs..." I don't think orcs really value grandpar

>Humans and orcas both seem to benefit from them in many ways. For a second, I thought you wrote "humans and orcs..." I don't think orcs really value grandparents that much, but who knows: Tolkein might have completely maligned them as mindless monsters when they were in fact just a fast-growing pre-industrial civilization.