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Outside of global top 50, ROI decreases to the point where you start considering where it is actually worth it. That was at least my thought process back in the

by kredd 2y ago

Outside of global top 50, ROI decreases to the point where you start considering where it is actually worth it. That was at least my thought process back in the days when I was applying to universities.

newzisforsukas 2y ago
Care to quantify this?
elric 2y ago
Where I'm from, a 4 year stint in higher education is about as expensive as a month's wages. It gets more expensive if you need student housing, but many students can and do commute. Most young folks can study something that interests them, at little risk. No one here has to worry about the ROI of their offspring's studies, nor do they have to worry about their prepubescent child starting charities (or whatever other insane nonsense) in order to qualify for some insanely expensive elitist college. Seems like a much more sensible approach than putting a fuckton of pressure on kids in order to get them in a college which will land them with 30 years of debt on top of a potential degree. Let kids be kids, and give students a chance to learn and explore.
- kredd 2y ago
  I completely agree! I should've worded my comment a bit better - "should I pay $40k/year for a school that won't open up doors for me in the future?" was the question that I was trying to answer back in the days. If it's cheap, or you can go without going into debt, obviously the calculations would be different.
- rr808 2y ago
  I agree with this attitude as it was in the country I grew up in. However in the US often internships are the path to graduate jobs which is a much easier way into the highest paying jobs. The other thing is time, sure you can try something out for 4 years but doing too much education means you'll never get to settle down until your 30s at the earliest.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Outside of global top 50, ROI decreases Source? Costs decrease, too.
lurking_swe 2y ago
that’s debatable. depends on the school and the major that’s being studied. There are MANY underrated good state schools that are nowhere near top 50, but can still offer a great education. Unless your only measure of success is getting your foot into the workplace due to prestige.
- rr808 2y ago
  > Unless your only measure of success is getting your foot into the workplace due to prestige. Prestige I'm not so worried about the but getting foot into the workplace is a significant benefit.
  - lurking_swe 2y ago
    I understand what you mean. Everyone’s path is different though. I went to an affordable state school around 2010 and my first job in the workplace was not glamorous. It was a big manufacturing company that happened to have a small software division lol. I earned $60k in a HCOL state but that’s OK. You learn quickly when you’re a junior, and if you job hop a few times, it’s easy to land at a respectable software company after 4-5 years. I now work at an employer that is a household name, and hires new grad computer science students from stanford, MIT, etc. Those new grads are a little smarter than me, but we still work at the same place. It’s OK…i’m not complaining. :)
nebula8804 2y ago
I dont know man, my school is not a global top 50 but it was a public engineering school and the CS degree I got was extremely valuable. I think you are being too strict with that "global top 50". It depends more on are you learning a skillset that an employer can find useful?

by kredd 2y ago

newzisforsukas 2y ago

Care to quantify this?

elric 2y ago

Where I'm from, a 4 year stint in higher education is about as expensive as a month's wages. It gets more expensive if you need student housing, but many students can and do commute. Most young folks can study something that interests them, at little risk. No one here has to worry about the ROI of their offspring's studies, nor do they have to worry about their prepubescent child starting charities (or whatever other insane nonsense) in order to qualify for some insanely expensive elitist college. Seems like a much more sensible approach than putting a fuckton of pressure on kids in order to get them in a college which will land them with 30 years of debt on top of a potential degree. Let kids be kids, and give students a chance to learn and explore.

kredd 2y ago
I completely agree! I should've worded my comment a bit better - "should I pay $40k/year for a school that won't open up doors for me in the future?" was the question that I was trying to answer back in the days. If it's cheap, or you can go without going into debt, obviously the calculations would be different.
rr808 2y ago
I agree with this attitude as it was in the country I grew up in. However in the US often internships are the path to graduate jobs which is a much easier way into the highest paying jobs. The other thing is time, sure you can try something out for 4 years but doing too much education means you'll never get to settle down until your 30s at the earliest.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> Outside of global top 50, ROI decreases Source? Costs decrease, too.

lurking_swe 2y ago

that’s debatable. depends on the school and the major that’s being studied. There are MANY underrated good state schools that are nowhere near top 50, but can still offer a great education. Unless your only measure of success is getting your foot into the workplace due to prestige.

rr808 2y ago
> Unless your only measure of success is getting your foot into the workplace due to prestige. Prestige I'm not so worried about the but getting foot into the workplace is a significant benefit.
- lurking_swe 2y ago
  I understand what you mean. Everyone’s path is different though. I went to an affordable state school around 2010 and my first job in the workplace was not glamorous. It was a big manufacturing company that happened to have a small software division lol. I earned $60k in a HCOL state but that’s OK. You learn quickly when you’re a junior, and if you job hop a few times, it’s easy to land at a respectable software company after 4-5 years. I now work at an employer that is a household name, and hires new grad computer science students from stanford, MIT, etc. Those new grads are a little smarter than me, but we still work at the same place. It’s OK…i’m not complaining. :)

nebula8804 2y ago

I dont know man, my school is not a global top 50 but it was a public engineering school and the CS degree I got was extremely valuable. I think you are being too strict with that "global top 50". It depends more on are you learning a skillset that an employer can find useful?