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How exactly is it unlawful? What law exactly says you have a right for appeal, or any rights to the company services at all? I don't want to say there isn't ro

How exactly is it unlawful? What law exactly says you have a right for appeal, or any rights to the company services at all? I don't want to say there isn't room for improvement. But I am not aware of any current law that would mean any of this is unlawful. I'd like to be proven wrong.

a2128 2y ago
EU's DMA recognizes the existence of gatekeepers and is supposed to make this kind of behavior unlawful and require allowing 3rd party app stores as an alternative
- linotype 2y ago
  Nevermind.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
    Does Apple allow iDOS3 in the EU?
    - linotype 2y ago
      Doesn’t appear to be. They may not be in compliance with EU law. Companies should be allowed to police their own stores in jurisdictions where that’s allowed. I’m glad the App Store isn’t a mess like it is on my Android device. It’s one of the reasons my primary phone is an iPhone.
    - tech234a 2y ago
      It’s worth noting that the rejection cited rule 4.7, which only applies on Apple’s App Store and not for Notarization [1]. I would think that if the dev applied for EU distribution it would likely be accepted. By extension, Apple might then also accept it for the App Store to prevent third-party stores from having ‘exclusive apps’, as has happened with both Delta (and emulators in general) and UTM SE [2]. [1]: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#third-party-software https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#thi... [2]: https://mastodon.social/@rileytestut/112791043604056224 https://mastodon.social/@rileytestut/112791043604056224
- throwaway3306a 2y ago
  That is not nearly enough and has nothing to do with app stores.
alanlammiman 2y ago
This specific issue is a central part of the US DOJ antitrust case against Apple, so there's a team of attorneys-general who think its unlawful.
- throwaway3306a 2y ago
  So what about all the other services that aren't monopolies?
p0w3n3d 2y ago
> What law exactly says you have a right for appeal This is Roman Law foundation. I mean all fair legal systems have been founded on Roman Law, others are simply totalitarian
- throwaway3306a 2y ago
  Terms and conditions are not legal systems.

a2128 2y ago

EU's DMA recognizes the existence of gatekeepers and is supposed to make this kind of behavior unlawful and require allowing 3rd party app stores as an alternative

linotype 2y ago
Nevermind.
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  Does Apple allow iDOS3 in the EU?
  - linotype 2y ago
    Doesn’t appear to be. They may not be in compliance with EU law. Companies should be allowed to police their own stores in jurisdictions where that’s allowed. I’m glad the App Store isn’t a mess like it is on my Android device. It’s one of the reasons my primary phone is an iPhone.
  - tech234a 2y ago
    It’s worth noting that the rejection cited rule 4.7, which only applies on Apple’s App Store and not for Notarization [1]. I would think that if the dev applied for EU distribution it would likely be accepted. By extension, Apple might then also accept it for the App Store to prevent third-party stores from having ‘exclusive apps’, as has happened with both Delta (and emulators in general) and UTM SE [2]. [1]: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#third-party-software https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#thi... [2]: https://mastodon.social/@rileytestut/112791043604056224 https://mastodon.social/@rileytestut/112791043604056224
throwaway3306a 2y ago
That is not nearly enough and has nothing to do with app stores.

alanlammiman 2y ago

This specific issue is a central part of the US DOJ antitrust case against Apple, so there's a team of attorneys-general who think its unlawful.

throwaway3306a 2y ago
So what about all the other services that aren't monopolies?

p0w3n3d 2y ago

> What law exactly says you have a right for appeal This is Roman Law foundation. I mean all fair legal systems have been founded on Roman Law, others are simply totalitarian

throwaway3306a 2y ago
Terms and conditions are not legal systems.