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You can check out some benchmarks: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-M4-SoC-analysis-AMD-Intel-and-Qualcomm-currently-don-t-stand-a-chance.839332.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-M4-SoC-analysis-AMD-Inte...
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It seems like the Apple Silicon chips are generally faster single-core, but a bit slower multi-core. In real life, it will probably depend on how well optimized your compiler (or whatever software) is for Apple Silicon. And native Linux on Apple hardware isn't mature yet, so if you need to virtualize it, it'll be even slower.
The advantage of the Macs are generally efficiency (performance per watt, meaning longer battery life and less heat and noise) and build quality, and well, you get a Mac (if you like macOS). If you don't care and just need something to crank out FLOPs, IMO I'd probably just build a desktop and run the workload there and remote into it from a cheap laptop of any sort.
If you do get a Thinkpad though, read up on their thermal management and try to get one that doesn't throttle so easily. The X1s I had usually had lower voltage CPUs (less performance) and would throttle even those under load, so they weren't good for long sustained CPU usage. Fine for business use or the occasional `npm install`, but if you're running multi-hour workloads, it will very likely overheat and throttle down. Not sure if their workstation models (the T models and others) are better in this regard; they are generally larger and not as squished together (read: hopefully better cooling/more fans).
- musicale 2y agoThinkpad thermals seem to be an issue. Apple Silicon laptops seem to have great thermals, and the Air doesn't even have a fan.
- solardev 2y agoYeah, I've loved the ThinkPads I've had, but universally they felt slow, hot, and poorly built (especially the Yogas). Loud too, under load. And I always buy the on site service with them because I've had to use that a few times as various parts broke. They're Lenovo's premium brand but ultimately still just commodity PC parts enclosed in plastic/carbon. They are very light though. Not sure if the T model workstations are different (heavier and more robust?) The modern MacBooks are in a different world altogether, IMO. They make even the best ThinkPads I've owned feel like toys. They are just so so nice and leaving legacy x86 feels so liberating. Incredible power and battery life and performance. If I had to buy a PC laptop it'd probably be a ThinkPad. But because Apple Silicon is a thing, I don't think I'll buy another PC laptop again. It's such a dramatic difference. I don't need Linux (on the desktop) though. If that were a firm requirement, I wouldn't want to rely only on Asahi for production use.