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> Man who hates that his trans child hates him angry These are very strong accusations. Do you have a reference or is this just an emotional response?

rjbwork 2y ago
I know that his trans child won't speak to him - I surmise it indicates hate, but perhaps not. Usually when people say things like "this is the final straw" it indicates anger. You can read more on the former by searching "Xavier Musk" and/or "Vivian Musk".
- s1artibartfast 2y ago
  Isn't there an inversion taking place in that logic. It stands that she might hate him, but not that he hates her.
  - defrost 2y ago
    The statement was not that "he hates her" but that "he hates that she hates him".
    - s1artibartfast 2y ago
      I did misread that. Several times in fact.
      - defrost 2y ago
        No drama, we've all skipped a word or three at times.
  - rsynnott 2y ago
    Well, he seems to have had a complete and very public nervous breakdown about trans people in the last few years, so, well, you do the maths.
    - s1artibartfast 2y ago
      Did he? What did he do?
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Do you have a reference She is quoted saying she no longer wishes "to be related to [her] biological father in any way, shape or form" [1]. Musk has publicly ranted about the estrangement, which isn't usually how one mends ties with family [2]. While I have no personal insight into the situation, it's fair to say Musk hates the estrangement and that his child, at the very least, wants nothing to do with him. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/elon-musks-child-seeks-name-change-reflect-gender-identity-sever-ties-rcna34479 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/elon-musks-child-seeks-... [2] https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/10/10/elon-musk-says-he-lost-transgender-daughter-because-of-neo-marxists/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/10/10/elon-musk-says-he-los...
Dig1t 2y ago
This is discussed in the Walter Isaacson biography that came out last year. Saying he “hates” his daughter is completely wrong and ignores first hand claims from both Musk and his biographer. >Musk only learned she had transitioned through a secondhand source >The wife of Elon's brother got a text, Isaacson wrote, which said: "Hey, I'm transgender, and my name is now Jenna". The text from the child, as in the biography, added: "Don't tell my dad." >The biographer said that Musk was "generally sanguine" when he found out she had transitioned but was hurt when she cut off communication with him. >The rift pained him more than anything in his life since the infant death of his firstborn child Nevada," Isaacson wrote of Musk's feelings about his relationship with his 19-year-old daughter. >Isaacson said that Musk blamed the disconnect between him and his daughter on her schooling at Crossroads, a private school she attended in Los Angeles. Musk has made similar comments publicly. >Last year, he told the Financial Times his daughter didn't want to be associated with him because of what he called the "full-on communism" taught in schools. https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-comments-relationship-transgender-daughter-vivian-jenna-2023-9?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-comments-relations... This all explains why he has had such an anti-woke streak, he blames the ideology for poisoning one of his kids against him. Definitely recommend reading the biography, it’s very interesting.
- LightBug1 2y ago
  Christ ... that's a lot of quoting and referencing. The guy is a douche. It's as simple as that.
- rjbwork 2y ago
  I didn't say he hates his daughter. I'd suggest you reread.
  - ttwam 2y ago
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  - Dig1t 2y ago
    Ah my bad, I read it on my phone and read it as "he hates his daughter". Sorry. Well the rest of my comment is still relevant anyway I guess.

rjbwork 2y ago

I know that his trans child won't speak to him - I surmise it indicates hate, but perhaps not. Usually when people say things like "this is the final straw" it indicates anger. You can read more on the former by searching "Xavier Musk" and/or "Vivian Musk".

s1artibartfast 2y ago
Isn't there an inversion taking place in that logic. It stands that she might hate him, but not that he hates her.
- defrost 2y ago
  The statement was not that "he hates her" but that "he hates that she hates him".
  - s1artibartfast 2y ago
    I did misread that. Several times in fact.
    - defrost 2y ago
      No drama, we've all skipped a word or three at times.
- rsynnott 2y ago
  Well, he seems to have had a complete and very public nervous breakdown about trans people in the last few years, so, well, you do the maths.
  - s1artibartfast 2y ago
    Did he? What did he do?

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> Do you have a reference She is quoted saying she no longer wishes "to be related to [her] biological father in any way, shape or form" [1]. Musk has publicly ranted about the estrangement, which isn't usually how one mends ties with family [2]. While I have no personal insight into the situation, it's fair to say Musk hates the estrangement and that his child, at the very least, wants nothing to do with him. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/elon-musks-child-seeks-name-change-reflect-gender-identity-sever-ties-rcna34479 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/elon-musks-child-seeks-... [2] https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/10/10/elon-musk-says-he-lost-transgender-daughter-because-of-neo-marxists/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/10/10/elon-musk-says-he-los...

Dig1t 2y ago

This is discussed in the Walter Isaacson biography that came out last year. Saying he “hates” his daughter is completely wrong and ignores first hand claims from both Musk and his biographer. >Musk only learned she had transitioned through a secondhand source >The wife of Elon's brother got a text, Isaacson wrote, which said: "Hey, I'm transgender, and my name is now Jenna". The text from the child, as in the biography, added: "Don't tell my dad." >The biographer said that Musk was "generally sanguine" when he found out she had transitioned but was hurt when she cut off communication with him. >The rift pained him more than anything in his life since the infant death of his firstborn child Nevada," Isaacson wrote of Musk's feelings about his relationship with his 19-year-old daughter. >Isaacson said that Musk blamed the disconnect between him and his daughter on her schooling at Crossroads, a private school she attended in Los Angeles. Musk has made similar comments publicly. >Last year, he told the Financial Times his daughter didn't want to be associated with him because of what he called the "full-on communism" taught in schools. https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-comments-relationship-transgender-daughter-vivian-jenna-2023-9?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-comments-relations... This all explains why he has had such an anti-woke streak, he blames the ideology for poisoning one of his kids against him. Definitely recommend reading the biography, it’s very interesting.

LightBug1 2y ago
Christ ... that's a lot of quoting and referencing. The guy is a douche. It's as simple as that.
rjbwork 2y ago
I didn't say he hates his daughter. I'd suggest you reread.
- ttwam 2y ago
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- Dig1t 2y ago
  Ah my bad, I read it on my phone and read it as "he hates his daughter". Sorry. Well the rest of my comment is still relevant anyway I guess.