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Speaking about Germany: This is because many CS degrees do not include sufficient practical projects. If you get some degree concluding practical project, you c
by zelphirkalt 2y ago
Speaking about Germany: This is because many CS degrees do not include sufficient practical projects. If you get some degree concluding practical project, you can already be happy. The real practice most CS students get, they get "off the job", in side projects. Or on the first job they somehow manage to get.
- lucb1e 2y agoNetherlands also, although it depends a bit on which master's they did. If you want people able to do stuff off the bat, hire those who did MBO or HBO (in DE, HBO=Fachhochschule, but DE doesn't have an MBO equivalent I think: that would be Ausbildung level afaict, except MBO doesn't require you to have a job at the same time). In English, my HBO translated their name to "University of Applied Sciences"; my MBO did not give a English translation of the degree
- emseetech 2y agoThere should be a 4 year Computer Science degree and a 2 year programming trade school, both equally difficult but in different directions, and companies should be aware enough to know which graduate they need. Of course the best hires would be those willing to do both, if they're capable of a 6 year commitment. Apprenticeships and on-the-job training is also an option, but nobody seems to be willing to do that anymore.
- dghlsakjg 2y agoThere are a (very) few coding boot camps that offer something resembling the practical model. Check out Turing School. 40 hours/ week of classroom instruction, including 6 weeks of just programming before you get introduced to a framework.