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Huh. Sway and Wayland was such a nightmare on Nvidia that it convinced me to switch to AMD. I wonder if it's better now. (IIRC the main issue was https://gitla

by creata 2y ago

Huh. Sway and Wayland was such a nightmare on Nvidia that it convinced me to switch to AMD. I wonder if it's better now. (IIRC the main issue was https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1317 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1317 , which is now complete.)

modzu 2y ago
why switch to amd and not just switch to X? :D
- account42 2y ago
  Why not both?
- whalesalad 2y ago
  once you go Wayland you usually don’t go back :)
  - Void_Kitty 2y ago
    I tried wayland (on amd) and found it annoying to work with compaired to x11 without any apparent benefits, wayland is definitely the future, but i don't think the future is now
  - kiney 2y ago
    I tested wayland for a while to see what the hype is about. No uoside lits of small workflows broken. Back to Xorg it was.
snailmailman 2y ago
Better as of extremely recently. Explicit sync fixes most of the issues with flickering that I’ve had on Wayland. I’ve been using the latest (beta?) driver for a while because of it. I’m using Hyprland though so explicit sync support isn’t entirely there for me yet. It’s actively being worked on. But in the last few months it’s gotten a lot better
- JasonSage 2y ago
  > Better as of extremely recently. Yup. Anecdotally, I see a lot of folks trying to run wine/games on Wayland reporting flickering issues that are gone as of version 555, which is the most recent release save for 560 coming out this week. It's a good time to be on the bleeding edge.
  - hulitu 2y ago
    You can always use X11. /s
    - bornfreddy 2y ago
      I know that was a joke, but - as someone who is still on X, what am I missing? Any practical advantages to using Wayland when using a single monitor on desktop computer?
      - vetinari 2y ago
        Even that single monitor can be hidpi, vrr or hdr (this one is still wip).
        Arch-TK 2y ago
        I have a 165 DPI monitor. This honestly just works with far less hassle on X. I don't have to listen to anyone try to explain to me how fractional scaling doesn't make sense (real explanation for why it wasn't supported). I don't have to deal with some silly explanation for why XWayland applications just can't be non-blurry with a fractional or non-1 scaling factor. I can just set the DPI to the value I calculated and things work in 99% of cases. In 0.9% of the remaining cases I need to set an environment variable or pass a flag to fix a buggy application and in the 0.1% of cases I need to make a change to the code. VRR has always worked for me on single monitor X. I use it on my gaming computer (so about twice a year).
        2y ago
joecool1029 2y ago
It's buggy still with sway on nvidia. I really thought the 555 driver would wrinkle out last of the issues but it still has further to go. Switched to kde plasma 6 on wayland since then and it's been great, not buggy at all.
XorNot 2y ago
Easy Linux use is what keeps me firmly on AMD. This move may earn them a customer.

by creata 2y ago

modzu 2y ago

why switch to amd and not just switch to X? :D

account42 2y ago
Why not both?
whalesalad 2y ago
once you go Wayland you usually don’t go back :)
- Void_Kitty 2y ago
  I tried wayland (on amd) and found it annoying to work with compaired to x11 without any apparent benefits, wayland is definitely the future, but i don't think the future is now
- kiney 2y ago
  I tested wayland for a while to see what the hype is about. No uoside lits of small workflows broken. Back to Xorg it was.

snailmailman 2y ago

Better as of extremely recently. Explicit sync fixes most of the issues with flickering that I’ve had on Wayland. I’ve been using the latest (beta?) driver for a while because of it. I’m using Hyprland though so explicit sync support isn’t entirely there for me yet. It’s actively being worked on. But in the last few months it’s gotten a lot better

JasonSage 2y ago
> Better as of extremely recently. Yup. Anecdotally, I see a lot of folks trying to run wine/games on Wayland reporting flickering issues that are gone as of version 555, which is the most recent release save for 560 coming out this week. It's a good time to be on the bleeding edge.
- hulitu 2y ago
  You can always use X11. /s
  - bornfreddy 2y ago
    I know that was a joke, but - as someone who is still on X, what am I missing? Any practical advantages to using Wayland when using a single monitor on desktop computer?
    - vetinari 2y ago
      Even that single monitor can be hidpi, vrr or hdr (this one is still wip).
      - Arch-TK 2y ago
        I have a 165 DPI monitor. This honestly just works with far less hassle on X. I don't have to listen to anyone try to explain to me how fractional scaling doesn't make sense (real explanation for why it wasn't supported). I don't have to deal with some silly explanation for why XWayland applications just can't be non-blurry with a fractional or non-1 scaling factor. I can just set the DPI to the value I calculated and things work in 99% of cases. In 0.9% of the remaining cases I need to set an environment variable or pass a flag to fix a buggy application and in the 0.1% of cases I need to make a change to the code. VRR has always worked for me on single monitor X. I use it on my gaming computer (so about twice a year).
        2y ago

joecool1029 2y ago

It's buggy still with sway on nvidia. I really thought the 555 driver would wrinkle out last of the issues but it still has further to go. Switched to kde plasma 6 on wayland since then and it's been great, not buggy at all.

XorNot 2y ago

Easy Linux use is what keeps me firmly on AMD. This move may earn them a customer.