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Nobody would collect all this by accident, especially when considering the purpose of the product…

• freedomben 2y ago
  Certainly not by accident. It takes intentional effort to collect any data, let alone data like this where you have to really scrape. This is in my opinion exactly what the tech industry is all about these days. I generally favor a light touch with regulation, but the US desperately needs some privacy laws because this industry is absolutely out of control
  • ghayes 2y ago
    I'd generally say that disclosure should be enough (and is currently insufficient in the US outside of California), but I am weary that much of your life now involves "Pay us with Venmo" or "Customer service via Twitter," such that one cannot really opt-out without paying a significant cost.
    • DaiPlusPlus 2y ago
      It’s not all bad: Venmo gives you payment/fraud protection; Twitter is a public forum so at least if anything goes wrong you’ll be a viral star of some kind. I draw the line at companies/orgs using Discord for anything.
      • YurgenJurgensen 2y ago
        Have you tried reading Tweets while not signed-in in the last year? Twitter is not a public forum any more. And it shows that these companies will alter the deal whenever it happens to serve their interests.
        • freedomben 2y ago
          "pray I don't alter it further"
  • bilbo0s 2y ago
    Problem is if our congress were to make laws they would make tough on terrorist laws to compel collection and storage of data for the good guys to get the bad guys easier. We all seem to forget that the patriot act passed 99 to 1. Whereupon… We promptly got rid of the 1. We have bad leaders. Look at our Presidential candidates. We won’t get better outcomes until that condition changes.
• Aurornis 2y ago
  Those are local log files on the device. The post says the subset of information sent to the server is smaller. Uploading location data with requests is a feature of the device. It's supposed to take your location into account so you can ask it questions like "What's the weather forecast?" The article is sparse on when the information is sent to the servers. If location data is being sent with requests, that's hardly a surprise.
  • nicce 2y ago
    > Uploading location data with requests is a feature of the device. It's supposed to take your location into account so you can ask it questions like "What's the weather forecast?" No. The whole product is an abstraction to different software interfaces. If it sends data, it should sent it to the weather API, not to Rabbit servers nor even log it, because the information is relevant only at that moment. Even if they route all traffic through their backend, their should log only errors. There is really no reason to store the location history on OS level.
    • Aurornis 2y ago
      > If it sends data, it should sent it to the weather API, That's not how the device works. The weather and location data are both context inputs to an LLM. The LLM produces the response and sends it to the device. The LLM runs on the server, not the device. You can't have the device connect to a separate weather API unless you send keys to the device, which would require per-user access credentials (good luck finding a 3rd party provider happy to do that). It would also increase the number of round trips, which increases response delay, which is one of the primary complaints about the device.
      • freedomben 2y ago
        I am far from an expert on LLMs and have never used the Rabbit, but wouldn't it be silly to have the llm produce the weather? Wouldn't that mean it must have the information in either the context window (or the training set, but that seems pretty unlikely to be current), meaning it already had to be gathered from an external source and wouldn't need to be sent to the LLM anyway? What can/does the Rabbit add to it above what a simple string concatenation would?
• ummonk 2y ago
  Most likely they were collecting it all to make debugging easier.