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Pathetic. Why are we still throwing any weight behind the two main political parties? They are both stagnant and weak. The opportunity to combat a broken system

by chabes 2y ago

Pathetic. Why are we still throwing any weight behind the two main political parties? They are both stagnant and weak. The opportunity to combat a broken system like this is now, yet everyone seems to be sitting on their hands.

rbanffy 2y ago
> Why are we still throwing any weight behind the two main political parties? Because they have the capillarity. You can push change locally with other players, but, if we are talking about federal elections, there's little other option. So, if you don't support one candidate, the only choice you have is to vote for the other one. Not voting is a no-no.
- chabes 2y ago
  > So, if you don't support one candidate, the only choice you have is to vote for the other one. That is the old way of thinking that got us in this situation in the first place. There has never been a better time than now to carve a new path. The two parties are dying.
  - rbanffy 2y ago
    One of the two dying parties will elect a president later this year. There's no viable new path that fits the timeline, so it's either old thinking or risking the more popular of two evils getting the White House (now, with Extra Powers!™ granted by the SCOTUS) and the not too far fetched possibility of a lot of civil unrest because of it. The US is a nice country. It'd be a shame if it fell prey to itself.
AnimalMuppet 2y ago
> The opportunity to combat a broken system like this is now, yet everyone seems to be sitting on their hands. Well, as the Beatles said, "You say you got a real solution/Well, you know/We'd all love to see the plan".
techostritch 2y ago
I mean frankly because if you have billions of dollars and want power now / in your lifetime, grassroots efforts to change the political system is not an efficient way. Also, isn’t. Marc Andreesen one of the Silicon Valley folks in favor of a monarchy? you need something that’s very powerful/big to do that.

by chabes 2y ago

rbanffy 2y ago

> Why are we still throwing any weight behind the two main political parties? Because they have the capillarity. You can push change locally with other players, but, if we are talking about federal elections, there's little other option. So, if you don't support one candidate, the only choice you have is to vote for the other one. Not voting is a no-no.

chabes 2y ago
> So, if you don't support one candidate, the only choice you have is to vote for the other one. That is the old way of thinking that got us in this situation in the first place. There has never been a better time than now to carve a new path. The two parties are dying.
- rbanffy 2y ago
  One of the two dying parties will elect a president later this year. There's no viable new path that fits the timeline, so it's either old thinking or risking the more popular of two evils getting the White House (now, with Extra Powers!™ granted by the SCOTUS) and the not too far fetched possibility of a lot of civil unrest because of it. The US is a nice country. It'd be a shame if it fell prey to itself.

AnimalMuppet 2y ago

> The opportunity to combat a broken system like this is now, yet everyone seems to be sitting on their hands. Well, as the Beatles said, "You say you got a real solution/Well, you know/We'd all love to see the plan".

techostritch 2y ago

I mean frankly because if you have billions of dollars and want power now / in your lifetime, grassroots efforts to change the political system is not an efficient way. Also, isn’t. Marc Andreesen one of the Silicon Valley folks in favor of a monarchy? you need something that’s very powerful/big to do that.