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As I read these comments, there is plenty of outrage at how Google keeps invasively tracking us. And rightly so. But I wonder about the other side of it: in my

by jwr 2y ago

As I read these comments, there is plenty of outrage at how Google keeps invasively tracking us. And rightly so. But I wonder about the other side of it: in my SaaS business I made a point of not using any tracking whatsoever and not letting Google peek into my users' behaviors. So, no analytics, no Google Fonts, no tag manager (obviously). But I don't think any of my users noticed, and I don't think any of them care.

nemomarx 2y ago
If they installed stuff to block it, that would be a sign they care about it at least in part? It's hard for me to tell the difference between a site with no ads and a site with some ads if I'm always using unlock and all. I just care that it ends up not showing me ads.
- iamacyborg 2y ago
  It’s less about the ads for me so much as having some mechanism in place to prevent unauthorised data slurping. Enough orgs have misconfigured cookie consent that this is fairly critical to me.
_the_inflator 2y ago
I think that we wear different hats during the day. As a product manager of a SaaS Enterprise application, I value data to improve the product; as a person outside the work environment, I value privacy. Tough call. On the other hand, I believe that browser tracking is only a small percentage of data being gathered about us, aggregated, and processed. There are so many ways to track us, and being clever ain't really a way to get out of this system. Too late, too sophisticated.
- tpxl 2y ago
  > As a product manager of a SaaS Enterprise application, I value data to improve the product. You can gather about 100% of useful data for improving SaaS Enterprise applications without selling out every single one of your users to Google, and it's not even hard.
  - otterley 2y ago
    Since you have clearly solved this problem, please tell the rest of the class how to accomplish this.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> I don't think any of my users noticed, and I don't think any of them care Did marketing every run with it?
rkangel 2y ago
> But I don't think any of my users noticed, and I don't think any of them care. You're probably right (unless you make a big deal of it). But you're doing something good. Nobody needs to notice it for it to still be good. Also, do you get benefits in not having cookie banners, or (small) performance impact?

by jwr 2y ago

nemomarx 2y ago

If they installed stuff to block it, that would be a sign they care about it at least in part? It's hard for me to tell the difference between a site with no ads and a site with some ads if I'm always using unlock and all. I just care that it ends up not showing me ads.

iamacyborg 2y ago
It’s less about the ads for me so much as having some mechanism in place to prevent unauthorised data slurping. Enough orgs have misconfigured cookie consent that this is fairly critical to me.

_the_inflator 2y ago

I think that we wear different hats during the day. As a product manager of a SaaS Enterprise application, I value data to improve the product; as a person outside the work environment, I value privacy. Tough call. On the other hand, I believe that browser tracking is only a small percentage of data being gathered about us, aggregated, and processed. There are so many ways to track us, and being clever ain't really a way to get out of this system. Too late, too sophisticated.

tpxl 2y ago
> As a product manager of a SaaS Enterprise application, I value data to improve the product. You can gather about 100% of useful data for improving SaaS Enterprise applications without selling out every single one of your users to Google, and it's not even hard.
- otterley 2y ago
  Since you have clearly solved this problem, please tell the rest of the class how to accomplish this.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> I don't think any of my users noticed, and I don't think any of them care Did marketing every run with it?

rkangel 2y ago

> But I don't think any of my users noticed, and I don't think any of them care. You're probably right (unless you make a big deal of it). But you're doing something good. Nobody needs to notice it for it to still be good. Also, do you get benefits in not having cookie banners, or (small) performance impact?