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I clicked on this with a rebuttal already half-written in my head, but (after skimming the CTO's post and then reading the detailed explanation of PPA[0]) I'll

I clicked on this with a rebuttal already half-written in my head, but (after skimming the CTO's post and then reading the detailed explanation of PPA[0]) I'll admit that I jumped the gun on assuming that PPA was just the latest name for storing an ad id. The idea behind it (that you have to give the advertisers an anonymous way to measure conversions to have a shot at getting them to give up tying your traffic back to your identity) is reasonable, and the implementation doesn't look crazy. There's details I don't understand yet and I'd like to see someone smarter than me critique the details, but for now I'll put my money where my mouth is by going in to Settings and re-enabling it. 0: https://github.com/mozilla/explainers/tree/main/ppa-experiment https://github.com/mozilla/explainers/tree/main/ppa-experime...

weare138 2y ago
That's missing the broader point. It's a web browser and users don't want this 'feature'. None of this is necessary for me to browse the web which is all I want from my web browser. Why should I have to jump through hoops and compromise my security and privacy to help some corporation with their marketing and advertising metrics? Why not just make this an opt-in option for users who want to volunteer their data to help these ad-tech companies? Oh that's right, no one in their right mind would do that. And the CTO's whole argument about stopping the 'perpetual arms race' by compromising with and appeasing the aggressor is absurd. Malicious actors and ad-tech companies will just exploit this too. If there's a legitimate way to access this data then we can only assume there's an illegitimate way to do it also.
- ineptech 2y ago
  No offense but are you confident you know what PPA is/does? "volunteer their data" doesn't seem a remotely fair characterization to me. Ignore the CTO's hand-wavey justification and go look at what it actually does and tell me if you still hate it this much. I agree with you ideologically but I think you're engaging in friendly fire here.

weare138 2y ago

That's missing the broader point. It's a web browser and users don't want this 'feature'. None of this is necessary for me to browse the web which is all I want from my web browser. Why should I have to jump through hoops and compromise my security and privacy to help some corporation with their marketing and advertising metrics? Why not just make this an opt-in option for users who want to volunteer their data to help these ad-tech companies? Oh that's right, no one in their right mind would do that. And the CTO's whole argument about stopping the 'perpetual arms race' by compromising with and appeasing the aggressor is absurd. Malicious actors and ad-tech companies will just exploit this too. If there's a legitimate way to access this data then we can only assume there's an illegitimate way to do it also.

ineptech 2y ago
No offense but are you confident you know what PPA is/does? "volunteer their data" doesn't seem a remotely fair characterization to me. Ignore the CTO's hand-wavey justification and go look at what it actually does and tell me if you still hate it this much. I agree with you ideologically but I think you're engaging in friendly fire here.