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Of course I don't think guns are the only thing that can make someone a victim, but I don't think gun culture is helping anyone from being a victim. If you liv

Of course I don't think guns are the only thing that can make someone a victim, but I don't think gun culture is helping anyone from being a victim. If you live your whole life afraid of being a victim of violent crime you are a victim whether or not anyone ever attacks you. That is a sad existence and it exists purely because of your fear based culture. No, it won't be successful because America has shown time and time again it would rather watch classrooms of children be murdered than give up their guns. You'd rather have to think about mass shootings every time you go to the mall or church than give up any freedoms around your guns. You don't get over that kind of fear in a generation or two.

tekknik 2y ago
how about the near 70k justifiable homicides per year from guns? there’s 70k victims per year disproving your point. you don’t get it. you want to ban guns and save 15k lives a year, yet drinking takes 140k lives a year. why aren’t you scared of alcohol? you have a higher chance of dying from a drunk driver or drinking yourself than being shot. so why don’t you focus on saving more lives?
- sanswork 2y ago
  Sounds like a made up number. According to https://vpc.org/studies/justifiable23.pdf https://vpc.org/studies/justifiable23.pdf the FBI said there were 316 "justifiable homicides" in 2019. >why aren’t you scared of alcohol? Why do you assume I'm not? Alcohol is horrible, it's the only drug that isn't just socially acceptable but often feels socially required despite its dangers. >so why don’t you focus on saving more lives? I'm a human, I'm able to focus on multiple things in my life.
  - tekknik 2y ago
    you’ll find different numbers for justifiable homicides and depending on the source. Your source here is a .org so can’t be trusted due to potential bias if you actually concerned with saving lives then again, focus on what will save the most. you keep continuing this conversation like you’re going to suddenly convince me to stop wanting to protect myself. additionally on HN people are set in their beliefs. you won’t convince anybody of anything here.

tekknik 2y ago

how about the near 70k justifiable homicides per year from guns? there’s 70k victims per year disproving your point. you don’t get it. you want to ban guns and save 15k lives a year, yet drinking takes 140k lives a year. why aren’t you scared of alcohol? you have a higher chance of dying from a drunk driver or drinking yourself than being shot. so why don’t you focus on saving more lives?

sanswork 2y ago
Sounds like a made up number. According to https://vpc.org/studies/justifiable23.pdf https://vpc.org/studies/justifiable23.pdf the FBI said there were 316 "justifiable homicides" in 2019. >why aren’t you scared of alcohol? Why do you assume I'm not? Alcohol is horrible, it's the only drug that isn't just socially acceptable but often feels socially required despite its dangers. >so why don’t you focus on saving more lives? I'm a human, I'm able to focus on multiple things in my life.
- tekknik 2y ago
  you’ll find different numbers for justifiable homicides and depending on the source. Your source here is a .org so can’t be trusted due to potential bias if you actually concerned with saving lives then again, focus on what will save the most. you keep continuing this conversation like you’re going to suddenly convince me to stop wanting to protect myself. additionally on HN people are set in their beliefs. you won’t convince anybody of anything here.