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I can't find a rant in the link. Was the link changed or did I overlook something?

jeroenhd 2y ago
The author of the website details their issue with the way HN does moderation (which I can't say I disagree with, especially after HN intentionally disabled referrer headers for websites that take issue with HN). This only shows up if HN is in the referer URL. I wouldn't call it a rant, but rather a polite request for HN policy to change.
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  > I wouldn't call it a rant, but rather a polite request for HN policy to change. Which is made by blocking people with no ability to do anything about it.
  - mcronce 2y ago
    What? All you need to do is resubmit the request without a Referer header. For me, using Firefox, this meant clicking in the address bar, changing nothing, and hitting enter. That's hardly "no ability to do anything about it".
    - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
      I mean people with no ability to alter HN moderation policy. Consider it like this: 1. I think, "oh, that looks relevant, let me open that link". 2. I get a screenful of objections to HN moderation. 3. I shrug and close the tab. Since I'm just a normal user who can't change HN moderation, the outcome is that HN doesn't change but I walk away with a worse opinion of the Asahi Linux folks.
      - lanstin 2y ago
        Weird: HN is supposed to be technical but the people behind Asahi Linux have proven themselves to be technical wizards; meanwhile HN seems more interested in money and pseudo-libertarian politics than transformitive technical excellence. But such is our age.
        eru 2y ago
        HN has actually drifted far, far to the left of where it started. It was called Startup News at the beginning. Of course, it's gonna be interested in money and money making. Duh.
      - mcronce 2y ago
        It certainly didn't worsen my opinion of the Asahi Linux folks. On the contrary, I commend them for standing up for what they feel is right. I also doubt they really care whether or not any particular HN reader has a positive or negative opinion of them.
amiga386 2y ago
If you click the link - any link to asahilinux.org from HN - it should start "Hi! It looks like you might have come from Hacker News.", followed Hector Martin ranting that he isn't in charge of the moderation policy of HN. The response given in Arkell v. Pressdram is appropriate.
Phelinofist 2y ago
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The author of the website details their issue with the way HN does moderation (which I can't say I disagree with, especially after HN intentionally disabled referrer headers for websites that take issue with HN). This only shows up if HN is in the referer URL. I wouldn't call it a rant, but rather a polite request for HN policy to change.

yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
> I wouldn't call it a rant, but rather a polite request for HN policy to change. Which is made by blocking people with no ability to do anything about it.
- mcronce 2y ago
  What? All you need to do is resubmit the request without a Referer header. For me, using Firefox, this meant clicking in the address bar, changing nothing, and hitting enter. That's hardly "no ability to do anything about it".
  - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
    I mean people with no ability to alter HN moderation policy. Consider it like this: 1. I think, "oh, that looks relevant, let me open that link". 2. I get a screenful of objections to HN moderation. 3. I shrug and close the tab. Since I'm just a normal user who can't change HN moderation, the outcome is that HN doesn't change but I walk away with a worse opinion of the Asahi Linux folks.
    - lanstin 2y ago
      Weird: HN is supposed to be technical but the people behind Asahi Linux have proven themselves to be technical wizards; meanwhile HN seems more interested in money and pseudo-libertarian politics than transformitive technical excellence. But such is our age.
      - eru 2y ago
        HN has actually drifted far, far to the left of where it started. It was called Startup News at the beginning. Of course, it's gonna be interested in money and money making. Duh.
    - mcronce 2y ago
      It certainly didn't worsen my opinion of the Asahi Linux folks. On the contrary, I commend them for standing up for what they feel is right. I also doubt they really care whether or not any particular HN reader has a positive or negative opinion of them.

amiga386 2y ago

If you click the link - any link to asahilinux.org from HN - it should start "Hi! It looks like you might have come from Hacker News.", followed Hector Martin ranting that he isn't in charge of the moderation policy of HN. The response given in Arkell v. Pressdram is appropriate.

Phelinofist 2y ago

Also didn't show for me with disabled JS