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You are seriously deluded if you think the abortion pill or a federal ban on abortion are not next. Also interesting how neither of you addressed the other poi

by kmos17 2y ago

You are seriously deluded if you think the abortion pill or a federal ban on abortion are not next. Also interesting how neither of you addressed the other point: he announced as early as 2016 that he would not accept the election results if he lost, he lost and he still has not accepted the results. The peaceful transfer of power is a central tenet of our election system, and it relies on candidates accepting defeat when they lose, and not cynically enraging their followers with lies.

hnpolicestate 2y ago
He accepted defeat after going through all the constitutionally protected steps to contest the results. Democrats basically took the 2000 Florida recount and turned it into the Reichstag Fire. Narrative not reality.
- kmos17 2y ago
  He still has not conceded or acknowledged defeat to this day. He went way beyond constitutionally protected steps, including in Georgia trying to pressure the Republican in charge to flip the election for him Gore conceded, the supreme court stepped in to stop the recount. The full recount would have most likely given florida to Gore since palm beach county was the one still not fully counted and heavily democratic. But Gore conceded to avoid a constitutional crisis. Instead we got Bush who dragged us into the completely unjustified Iraq war. Both the exact opposite of what you are stating.
  - pyronik19 2y ago
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webninja 2y ago
>You are seriously deluded if you think the abortion pill or a federal ban on abortion are not next. You’re seriously deluded if you think either of those are next. I’m confidently willing to bet money that the furthest it will go during the next 4 years is a states-rights issue. Which is no-change from what it is now -because- the supreme court have already decided on this issue. Furthermore the president elect says that in all of his interviews regarding the topic of abortion and you would see that if you just watched one of the ones in the last few years. [Citation Needed?] Okay the 2 hr Dr. Phil interview with him and the presidential debate are two of many. Yeah that’s an unusually and unexpectedly moderate take but there it is. Look at all the interviews yourself. Look at the court cases yourself. See it with your own eyes. You should view the news sources that have deluded you with your incorrect views with contempt and hate. Their actions of intentionally misleading you is an act of evil. Anyone that tells you lies is a bad person. The ones most motivated to tell those lies are commonly the one-world government globalists. They’re motivated by their cartoon-like visions of world domination. The same people that want a future for you where they allege “You’ll own nothing and be happy.” Yeah where most of your happiness comes from anti-depressant pills.
- kmos17 2y ago
  You are labeling people disagreeing with you evil and globalists and bad persons, this is the direct path to authoritarianism and its murderous consequences. Your statements are driven by hate, please look in the mirror at your own words and beliefs. Trump appointed judges that stated row vs. wade was settled case law during their confirmation hearings, directly lying to congress. Of course Trump is not himself pro abortion, he is a philanderer who slept with porn stars, he has zero interest in the issue, but he has used the political issue to gain power and his actions have already greatly damaged individual rights in this country, and will continue to do so.
  - webninja 2y ago
    No, I labeled news sources who have intentionally deluded you as bad people. Some of those bad people are probably globalists. Some of those globalists are evil. All of the above are people that can’t even pretend successfully that they care about you nor your country. No, this stance is driven by the truth. Truth by which you haven’t refuted nor provided evidence to the contrary beyond one line: > Trump appointed judges that stated row vs. Wade was settled case law during their confirmation hearings, directly lying to congress. First, actions matter more than words. The Supreme Court is balanced now and is doing a commendable job. See FDA v. Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine, Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo, and Moyle v. United States as 3 examples. Second, judging by everything else you’ve written I don’t think you’re capable of detecting lies or not. Repeating what you heard on MSNBC or CNN is about as correct as reporting what you heard on Breitbart and InfoWars. They don’t let the facts get in the way of a good narrative. Regarding the rest of your response, you don’t have an argument to the contrary so now you engage in Whataboutism. What about this? What about that? If you want to engage like that, start a new comment for each of your new topics. But so long as you want to send the conversation in a new direction, you show that can’t argue the validity of this point and you have lost this debate. Which is okay See further: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

by kmos17 2y ago

hnpolicestate 2y ago

He accepted defeat after going through all the constitutionally protected steps to contest the results. Democrats basically took the 2000 Florida recount and turned it into the Reichstag Fire. Narrative not reality.

kmos17 2y ago
He still has not conceded or acknowledged defeat to this day. He went way beyond constitutionally protected steps, including in Georgia trying to pressure the Republican in charge to flip the election for him Gore conceded, the supreme court stepped in to stop the recount. The full recount would have most likely given florida to Gore since palm beach county was the one still not fully counted and heavily democratic. But Gore conceded to avoid a constitutional crisis. Instead we got Bush who dragged us into the completely unjustified Iraq war. Both the exact opposite of what you are stating.
- pyronik19 2y ago
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webninja 2y ago

>You are seriously deluded if you think the abortion pill or a federal ban on abortion are not next. You’re seriously deluded if you think either of those are next. I’m confidently willing to bet money that the furthest it will go during the next 4 years is a states-rights issue. Which is no-change from what it is now -because- the supreme court have already decided on this issue. Furthermore the president elect says that in all of his interviews regarding the topic of abortion and you would see that if you just watched one of the ones in the last few years. [Citation Needed?] Okay the 2 hr Dr. Phil interview with him and the presidential debate are two of many. Yeah that’s an unusually and unexpectedly moderate take but there it is. Look at all the interviews yourself. Look at the court cases yourself. See it with your own eyes. You should view the news sources that have deluded you with your incorrect views with contempt and hate. Their actions of intentionally misleading you is an act of evil. Anyone that tells you lies is a bad person. The ones most motivated to tell those lies are commonly the one-world government globalists. They’re motivated by their cartoon-like visions of world domination. The same people that want a future for you where they allege “You’ll own nothing and be happy.” Yeah where most of your happiness comes from anti-depressant pills.

kmos17 2y ago
You are labeling people disagreeing with you evil and globalists and bad persons, this is the direct path to authoritarianism and its murderous consequences. Your statements are driven by hate, please look in the mirror at your own words and beliefs. Trump appointed judges that stated row vs. wade was settled case law during their confirmation hearings, directly lying to congress. Of course Trump is not himself pro abortion, he is a philanderer who slept with porn stars, he has zero interest in the issue, but he has used the political issue to gain power and his actions have already greatly damaged individual rights in this country, and will continue to do so.
- webninja 2y ago
  No, I labeled news sources who have intentionally deluded you as bad people. Some of those bad people are probably globalists. Some of those globalists are evil. All of the above are people that can’t even pretend successfully that they care about you nor your country. No, this stance is driven by the truth. Truth by which you haven’t refuted nor provided evidence to the contrary beyond one line: > Trump appointed judges that stated row vs. Wade was settled case law during their confirmation hearings, directly lying to congress. First, actions matter more than words. The Supreme Court is balanced now and is doing a commendable job. See FDA v. Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine, Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo, and Moyle v. United States as 3 examples. Second, judging by everything else you’ve written I don’t think you’re capable of detecting lies or not. Repeating what you heard on MSNBC or CNN is about as correct as reporting what you heard on Breitbart and InfoWars. They don’t let the facts get in the way of a good narrative. Regarding the rest of your response, you don’t have an argument to the contrary so now you engage in Whataboutism. What about this? What about that? If you want to engage like that, start a new comment for each of your new topics. But so long as you want to send the conversation in a new direction, you show that can’t argue the validity of this point and you have lost this debate. Which is okay See further: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism