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Trump wasn't in the building, Pence was. The president isn't even in charge of capital security due to the separation of powers, that control lies with Congress

by yesco 2y ago

Trump wasn't in the building, Pence was. The president isn't even in charge of capital security due to the separation of powers, that control lies with Congress which handled it miserablely. Had Trump done what you have suggested here, it could have been easily construed as a coup, the real kind.

theblobawakens 2y ago
I don't think it would have worked. The Joint Chiefs had publicly announced 6 months prior during BLM riots that if Trump would issue such an order to the Sec. Def., the generals and staff officers of the COCOM wouldn't execute it. And that was not two weeks before investiture of the new president. If he'd tried it, that would be a very short lived coup of the real kind.
- yesco 2y ago
  Okay so just as a refresher, the parent comment I'd replied to was criticizing Trump for not marching the military into the capital to stop a group of unarmed protesters from loitering in the capital building (implying his inaction was suspect). I was pointing out that such an action would be construed as a genuine coup with serious consequences, so with that in mind, what exactly are you getting at here? I'm having trouble keeping track of all the crazy conspiracies surrounding this event.
  - theblobawakens 2y ago
    >what exactly are you getting at here. I don't disagree with you. I merely wanted to add that whatever anybody is saying left or right, it probably wouldn't have worked had he tried an actual coup. From a rational POV I don't really understand all the brouhaha. Compared to a lot of other situations elsewhere, Jan 6th was a minor spectacle, nothing serious (see Yellow Vests protests in France).
dragontamer 2y ago
I think we all expected Trump to at least call off the protesters. But instead, Trump gave us hours of inaction. Precious hours wasted during the time we needed leadership most. I'm not planning on voting such an indecisive man into office.
- laverya 2y ago
  Wasn't he literally banned on Twitter after posting a "stand down" video that afternoon?
  - dragontamer 2y ago
    The stand down video he posted at 6:02pm? You know, long after Pence authorized the National Guard units and activated them? Shaky Trump had his chance to prove he was a decisive leader back then. He failed the test in the most spectacular fashion.

by yesco 2y ago

theblobawakens 2y ago

I don't think it would have worked. The Joint Chiefs had publicly announced 6 months prior during BLM riots that if Trump would issue such an order to the Sec. Def., the generals and staff officers of the COCOM wouldn't execute it. And that was not two weeks before investiture of the new president. If he'd tried it, that would be a very short lived coup of the real kind.

yesco 2y ago
Okay so just as a refresher, the parent comment I'd replied to was criticizing Trump for not marching the military into the capital to stop a group of unarmed protesters from loitering in the capital building (implying his inaction was suspect). I was pointing out that such an action would be construed as a genuine coup with serious consequences, so with that in mind, what exactly are you getting at here? I'm having trouble keeping track of all the crazy conspiracies surrounding this event.
- theblobawakens 2y ago
  >what exactly are you getting at here. I don't disagree with you. I merely wanted to add that whatever anybody is saying left or right, it probably wouldn't have worked had he tried an actual coup. From a rational POV I don't really understand all the brouhaha. Compared to a lot of other situations elsewhere, Jan 6th was a minor spectacle, nothing serious (see Yellow Vests protests in France).

dragontamer 2y ago

I think we all expected Trump to at least call off the protesters. But instead, Trump gave us hours of inaction. Precious hours wasted during the time we needed leadership most. I'm not planning on voting such an indecisive man into office.

laverya 2y ago
Wasn't he literally banned on Twitter after posting a "stand down" video that afternoon?
- dragontamer 2y ago
  The stand down video he posted at 6:02pm? You know, long after Pence authorized the National Guard units and activated them? Shaky Trump had his chance to prove he was a decisive leader back then. He failed the test in the most spectacular fashion.