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I dislike right-wing silliness as much as anyone, but this whole hate against Texas is just weird. We had Montana winter weather for a week and our grid went do

by jmugan 2y ago

I dislike right-wing silliness as much as anyone, but this whole hate against Texas is just weird. We had Montana winter weather for a week and our grid went down. I had a business partner in California during a period a few years back and we had to reschedule meetings around when he would have electricity. We should just focus on doing better instead of fighting.

skhunted 2y ago
The hate as you call it is not weird. It’s a reasonable response to a state that consistently enacts laws and regulations that hurt the people. You get what you vote for and people in other states have to put up with idiotic Texas politicians who vote against hurricane Sandy aid while later requesting help. Texas deserves far more “hate” than it gets.
- jmugan 2y ago
  You don't have to see the world in such stark terms. There is plenty of silliness everywhere.
  - skhunted 2y ago
    Not all silliness is equal or equally stupid. The Texas legislature routinely calls for secession when a Democrat wins the Presidency and votes to stymie federal aid to other states while demanding federal aid for themselves. I don’t see the world in stark terms except where appropriate. You do believe cases exist where such views are warranted right? I happen to think that Texas qualifies.
    - telotortium 2y ago
      California demands just as much federal aid, and perhaps more - they budgeted assuming that COVID-era federal funding would last forever, until they were recently forced to cut after having to face their absurd assumptions. San Francisco's city government also attempted to boycott working with any contractor in 30 states based on their political views, until it was forced to relent due to not being able to find contractors at an acceptable price.
      - skhunted 2y ago
        California gets much less in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes. California is much larger population wise than Texas and as such it isn’t surprising that they need more federal aid. California also doesn’t vote against federal aid to states in disaster situations.
- basementcat 2y ago
  Perhaps it would be more helpful to try to understand what underlying mechanisms have created situations in which apparently self destructive tendencies are expressed in large societies (not just Texas but in general). What can we do to improve on this?
  - shermantanktop 2y ago
    Not a Texas-hater exactly, but there’s something specific here wrt culture and identity. Texans routinely describe Texas as exceptional, as different, as unique. You may be right that there are generic problems at work, but when the protagonist insists that they aren’t like others, it’s not a surprise that people don’t think that way.

by jmugan 2y ago

skhunted 2y ago

The hate as you call it is not weird. It’s a reasonable response to a state that consistently enacts laws and regulations that hurt the people. You get what you vote for and people in other states have to put up with idiotic Texas politicians who vote against hurricane Sandy aid while later requesting help. Texas deserves far more “hate” than it gets.

jmugan 2y ago
You don't have to see the world in such stark terms. There is plenty of silliness everywhere.
- skhunted 2y ago
  Not all silliness is equal or equally stupid. The Texas legislature routinely calls for secession when a Democrat wins the Presidency and votes to stymie federal aid to other states while demanding federal aid for themselves. I don’t see the world in stark terms except where appropriate. You do believe cases exist where such views are warranted right? I happen to think that Texas qualifies.
  - telotortium 2y ago
    California demands just as much federal aid, and perhaps more - they budgeted assuming that COVID-era federal funding would last forever, until they were recently forced to cut after having to face their absurd assumptions. San Francisco's city government also attempted to boycott working with any contractor in 30 states based on their political views, until it was forced to relent due to not being able to find contractors at an acceptable price.
    - skhunted 2y ago
      California gets much less in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes. California is much larger population wise than Texas and as such it isn’t surprising that they need more federal aid. California also doesn’t vote against federal aid to states in disaster situations.
basementcat 2y ago
Perhaps it would be more helpful to try to understand what underlying mechanisms have created situations in which apparently self destructive tendencies are expressed in large societies (not just Texas but in general). What can we do to improve on this?
- shermantanktop 2y ago
  Not a Texas-hater exactly, but there’s something specific here wrt culture and identity. Texans routinely describe Texas as exceptional, as different, as unique. You may be right that there are generic problems at work, but when the protagonist insists that they aren’t like others, it’s not a surprise that people don’t think that way.