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Firefox for Android no longer shows full URL

37 points by 4bpp 2y ago

4bpp 2y ago
As yet another entry in the long cavalcade of inexplicable user-hostile changes, Firefox for Android has stopped displaying anything but the TLD at the top of the screen, unless you explicitly edit it. The bugtracker thread makes it clear that this is a deliberate change, though none of the deliberation seems to have been public. My best non-conspiracy guess would be that it is rationalised with an argument along the lines of hypothetical users being fooled by phishing websites along the lines of http://www.fake.com/1/2/3/http/www.real.com/ http://www.fake.com/1/2/3/http/www.real.com/, but surely this would have been prevented by the default left-justification and could have been reinforced with colour if they were so concerned.
- Arnt 2y ago
  What they deleted is called a postage stamp user interface. Where you use a small part of the screen to interact with something big. Good riddance of bad rubbish. The usual good replacement is a small touchable area that shows the essential part and leads to a full-screen editing interface.
namanyayg 2y ago
I HATE this so much! I switched to Firefox to enjoy a more open, user-friendly, and non-shittified product experience. I fully expected Chrome to do this sort of stuff, but why is Mozilla also following suit?
- yorwba 2y ago
  I hate it too, but to be fair we signed up for this when we decided to install Firefox Nightly instead of the stable version. As the author of the change writes: > This is a partial implementation of the URL bar, this will have to be addressed in phase 2 when the address bar is reworked. Now, if this partial implementation makes it into the stable version as-is, that would certainly be a failure of release management, but otherwise it's just the nightly acting as testing ground for half-baked stuff.
  - 4bpp 2y ago
    Well, except you were forced to use Nightly if you wanted to use any unapproved extensions (i.e. the vast majority of them). I would fully expect no improvements before this lands in stable. To add insult to injury, they might even say that they trialled it in Nightly and found it to be a great success.
  - ClassyJacket 2y ago
    I only use Nightly because you have to to install unapproved extensions
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logicprog 2y ago
Yay for using patched Firefoxes! (Fennec on Android)
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exabrial 2y ago
Seriously, what the hell? The whole point is do people can identity tracking links. I thought they were pro privacy
- out_of_protocol 2y ago
  > I thought they were pro privacy Remember, Mozilla is now ad company, since last month
superkuh 2y ago
This is no minor change. URLs are how the web works. This is an anti-web, pro-silo change and it is very bad.
politelemon 2y ago
(nightly)
solnyshok 2y ago
I use Fennec on Android, which is privacy focused build of Firefox.
antifa 2y ago
Also hasn't supported keyboard shortcuts...
TheChaplain 2y ago
Going down the rabbit hole, it seems Mozilla now have a hidden/closed issuetracker where you probably can find more information and reasoning for this change. The issue "[Meta] Toolbar redesign" (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1889863 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1889863) points to this https://mozilla-hub.atlassian.net/browse/FXDROID-1756 https://mozilla-hub.atlassian.net/browse/FXDROID-1756
ClassyJacket 2y ago
This is annoying me alot. The whole point of the address bar is to show the address and its not doing it. On mobile you don't have the tab title either, which makes it even worse. I really hope they revert this.
goplayoutside 2y ago
It's been frustrating to watch the precipitous decline of Mozilla and Firefox over the past decade. Here's hoping AKling & Co ships an Android version of Ladybird. I'll happily pay for a browser developed by a team that cares about creating a quality product. That's vastly preferable to suffering the constant contempt that the people at Firefox seem to have for their ~~most ardent~~ few remaining supporters. Edit: The Ladybird faq[0] says: >Will Ladybird work on mobile devices? >We don't have anyone actively working on an Android or iOS port. More effort will be put into mobile once we have the desktop versions in a good state. >While there is the start of an Android port in the project repository, mobile is not a priority at the moment. 0. https://ladybird.org/ https://ladybird.org/
lopkeny12ko 2y ago
So how do you change it to display the full URL again? Is there an about:config flag?

37 points by 4bpp 2y ago

4bpp 2y ago

As yet another entry in the long cavalcade of inexplicable user-hostile changes, Firefox for Android has stopped displaying anything but the TLD at the top of the screen, unless you explicitly edit it. The bugtracker thread makes it clear that this is a deliberate change, though none of the deliberation seems to have been public. My best non-conspiracy guess would be that it is rationalised with an argument along the lines of hypothetical users being fooled by phishing websites along the lines of http://www.fake.com/1/2/3/http/www.real.com/ http://www.fake.com/1/2/3/http/www.real.com/, but surely this would have been prevented by the default left-justification and could have been reinforced with colour if they were so concerned.

Arnt 2y ago
What they deleted is called a postage stamp user interface. Where you use a small part of the screen to interact with something big. Good riddance of bad rubbish. The usual good replacement is a small touchable area that shows the essential part and leads to a full-screen editing interface.

namanyayg 2y ago

I HATE this so much! I switched to Firefox to enjoy a more open, user-friendly, and non-shittified product experience. I fully expected Chrome to do this sort of stuff, but why is Mozilla also following suit?

yorwba 2y ago
I hate it too, but to be fair we signed up for this when we decided to install Firefox Nightly instead of the stable version. As the author of the change writes: > This is a partial implementation of the URL bar, this will have to be addressed in phase 2 when the address bar is reworked. Now, if this partial implementation makes it into the stable version as-is, that would certainly be a failure of release management, but otherwise it's just the nightly acting as testing ground for half-baked stuff.
- 4bpp 2y ago
  Well, except you were forced to use Nightly if you wanted to use any unapproved extensions (i.e. the vast majority of them). I would fully expect no improvements before this lands in stable. To add insult to injury, they might even say that they trialled it in Nightly and found it to be a great success.
- ClassyJacket 2y ago
  I only use Nightly because you have to to install unapproved extensions
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logicprog 2y ago

Yay for using patched Firefoxes! (Fennec on Android)

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exabrial 2y ago

Seriously, what the hell? The whole point is do people can identity tracking links. I thought they were pro privacy

out_of_protocol 2y ago
> I thought they were pro privacy Remember, Mozilla is now ad company, since last month

superkuh 2y ago

This is no minor change. URLs are how the web works. This is an anti-web, pro-silo change and it is very bad.

politelemon 2y ago

(nightly)

solnyshok 2y ago

I use Fennec on Android, which is privacy focused build of Firefox.

antifa 2y ago

Also hasn't supported keyboard shortcuts...

TheChaplain 2y ago

Going down the rabbit hole, it seems Mozilla now have a hidden/closed issuetracker where you probably can find more information and reasoning for this change. The issue "[Meta] Toolbar redesign" (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1889863 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1889863) points to this https://mozilla-hub.atlassian.net/browse/FXDROID-1756 https://mozilla-hub.atlassian.net/browse/FXDROID-1756

ClassyJacket 2y ago

This is annoying me alot. The whole point of the address bar is to show the address and its not doing it. On mobile you don't have the tab title either, which makes it even worse. I really hope they revert this.

goplayoutside 2y ago

It's been frustrating to watch the precipitous decline of Mozilla and Firefox over the past decade. Here's hoping AKling & Co ships an Android version of Ladybird. I'll happily pay for a browser developed by a team that cares about creating a quality product. That's vastly preferable to suffering the constant contempt that the people at Firefox seem to have for their ~~most ardent~~ few remaining supporters. Edit: The Ladybird faq[0] says: >Will Ladybird work on mobile devices? >We don't have anyone actively working on an Android or iOS port. More effort will be put into mobile once we have the desktop versions in a good state. >While there is the start of an Android port in the project repository, mobile is not a priority at the moment. 0. https://ladybird.org/ https://ladybird.org/

lopkeny12ko 2y ago

So how do you change it to display the full URL again? Is there an about:config flag?