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There are plenty of options for handheld computing that Apple don’t make. I am confused by the attitude as if Apple don’t make it very clear what you are buyin

There are plenty of options for handheld computing that Apple don’t make. I am confused by the attitude as if Apple don’t make it very clear what you are buying. Buying an iPhone and expecting it to be something other than a locked down walled garden is wishful thinking

wiseowise 2y ago
Stupid consumers don’t understand they’re supposed to abandon their devices and ecosystems instead of demanding Apple to make changes.
- macintux 2y ago
  Are consumers (outside this relatively niche environment) demanding Apple make changes? I'm personally wishing the EU would shut up, but I can't demand they do anything.
  - wiseowise 2y ago
    > Are consumers (outside this relatively niche environment) demanding Apple make changes? Relatively niche environment shouldn’t have a voice? > I'm personally wishing the EU would shut up, but I can't demand they do anything. What exactly bothers you when EU requests improvements from Apple?
    - macintux 2y ago
      The vocal minority of tech enthusiasts who want a more open computing platform are the same people who can make great use of the alternatives. And the EU isn't "requesting" things, nor are they definitively "improvements". Apple has worked very hard to create a safe platform, a safe ecosystem, and the EU is demanding that they weaken some of those defense mechanisms. I personally feel Apple has struck a reasonable balance, and I value the benefits.
      - wiseowise 2y ago
        > The vocal minority of tech enthusiasts who want a more open computing platform are the same people who can make great use of the alternatives. Or like any other consumer they can do a feature request. > And the EU isn't "requesting" things, nor are they definitively "improvements". Apple has worked very hard to create a safe platform, a safe ecosystem, and the EU is demanding that they weaken some of those defense mechanisms. I’ll assume you’re talking about alternative app stores for EU, so how exactly having an alternative store going to weaken defense mechanisms for those who stay within walled garden?

wiseowise 2y ago

Stupid consumers don’t understand they’re supposed to abandon their devices and ecosystems instead of demanding Apple to make changes.

macintux 2y ago
Are consumers (outside this relatively niche environment) demanding Apple make changes? I'm personally wishing the EU would shut up, but I can't demand they do anything.
- wiseowise 2y ago
  > Are consumers (outside this relatively niche environment) demanding Apple make changes? Relatively niche environment shouldn’t have a voice? > I'm personally wishing the EU would shut up, but I can't demand they do anything. What exactly bothers you when EU requests improvements from Apple?
  - macintux 2y ago
    The vocal minority of tech enthusiasts who want a more open computing platform are the same people who can make great use of the alternatives. And the EU isn't "requesting" things, nor are they definitively "improvements". Apple has worked very hard to create a safe platform, a safe ecosystem, and the EU is demanding that they weaken some of those defense mechanisms. I personally feel Apple has struck a reasonable balance, and I value the benefits.
    - wiseowise 2y ago
      > The vocal minority of tech enthusiasts who want a more open computing platform are the same people who can make great use of the alternatives. Or like any other consumer they can do a feature request. > And the EU isn't "requesting" things, nor are they definitively "improvements". Apple has worked very hard to create a safe platform, a safe ecosystem, and the EU is demanding that they weaken some of those defense mechanisms. I’ll assume you’re talking about alternative app stores for EU, so how exactly having an alternative store going to weaken defense mechanisms for those who stay within walled garden?