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> just a general computing device No, it's an Apple device. It _should_ be a general computing device, but Apple ensures that it will never be, and you should
by moogly 2y ago
> just a general computing device
No, it's an Apple device. It _should_ be a general computing device, but Apple ensures that it will never be, and you should be aware of that when you buy it.
- smackeyacky 2y agoI don’t know about that. My washing machine could be a general purpose computer but I didn’t buy it for that. I didn’t buy an iPhone to be a general purpose computing device for the same reason
- rowanG077 2y agoAnd there should be a ban on big washing machine locking down their washing machines. People should be able to use the hardware for what they want. It's a pretty pointless thing to say "I didn't buy an Ipad to do X so why should it be able to do X?". Of course you didn't buy your ipad to do X. It's not capable of doing X so you'd be pretty stupid if you bought it for that purpose. That has nothing to do whether the manufacturer of the ipad should be allowed to control whether you can do X.
- smackeyacky 2y agoApple have no obligation to allow their devices to do X even if the device is capable of it. It’s well understood when you buy an iPhone you’re getting a closely managed experience. If that isn’t acceptable, buy something else
- rowanG077 2y agoThe EU disagrees with your statement at least for some X. So Apple indeed is under the obligation to allow users to those X if they want to sell their devices in the EU.
- smackeyacky 2y agoAnd I guess technically correct is the best kind of correct, but rather than give money to Apple for some fantasy feature they will fight tooth and nail against, just buy something else.
- rowanG077 2y agoThese are not fantasy features. Just look at the simplicity of having USB-C on the iphone. The only reason this is there is because of the EU. Iphones would still be in the dark ages with lightning were it not for the EU.
- justinclift 2y ago> Apple have no obligation to allow their devices ... Pretty sure that once people have bought the device, it's literally theirs and not Apples. At that point, what Apple wants for the device should just be advisory rather than something they can exert any actual control over.
- wiseowise 2y agoiPhone is a computing device, washing machine is machine capable of computing. Big difference. Jobs literally presented iPhone with “Desktop class applications & networking”.
- smackeyacky 2y agoThere are plenty of options for handheld computing that Apple don’t make. I am confused by the attitude as if Apple don’t make it very clear what you are buying. Buying an iPhone and expecting it to be something other than a locked down walled garden is wishful thinking
- wiseowise 2y agoStupid consumers don’t understand they’re supposed to abandon their devices and ecosystems instead of demanding Apple to make changes.
- macintux 2y agoAre consumers (outside this relatively niche environment) demanding Apple make changes? I'm personally wishing the EU would shut up, but I can't demand they do anything.
- wiseowise 2y ago> Are consumers (outside this relatively niche environment) demanding Apple make changes? Relatively niche environment shouldn’t have a voice? > I'm personally wishing the EU would shut up, but I can't demand they do anything. What exactly bothers you when EU requests improvements from Apple?
- macintux 2y agoThe vocal minority of tech enthusiasts who want a more open computing platform are the same people who can make great use of the alternatives. And the EU isn't "requesting" things, nor are they definitively "improvements". Apple has worked very hard to create a safe platform, a safe ecosystem, and the EU is demanding that they weaken some of those defense mechanisms. I personally feel Apple has struck a reasonable balance, and I value the benefits.
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