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For me personally, I learned to avoid every smartphone vendor that: 1) doesn't share the sources of their Android OEM images online 2) isn't compatible with L
by cookiengineer 2y ago
For me personally, I learned to avoid every smartphone vendor that:
1) doesn't share the sources of their Android OEM images online
2) isn't compatible with LineageOS.
3) doesn't have replaceable batteries.
If either of those apply, it's just a waste of money that can be avoided, regardless of build quality. In the case of the Jelly devices, they have a replaceable battery, but it's still just software waste.
Usually I ended up buying devices that fit my description from ebay in used condition so it's also kinda better for the environment because I am breathing life into a device that would've been electronic waste otherwise.
- t0bia_s 2y ago4) Is not bigger than 72mm W. What you ended up with?
- cookiengineer 2y agoHonestly, some Sony XZ and Xiaomi Redmi devices were kinda nice in the past because even when they had a sealed battery they were still replaceable without super expensive heat plates. Ethically I'd probably recommend a Fairphone 2/3/3+ in used condition, though they are somewhat clumsy. Ironically it's somewhat more private because the fingerprinting sensor never works in all of these models :D In theory the Pixel 3+ devices would be amazing, but their resale value is just way too high for my cheap pockets. I set myself a limit of max 200 bucks for a used device, for both used laptops and smartphones and I never buy new hardware. I'd avoid MediaTek chipset devices, because they have a known RootKit that can be easily exploited. Their CPUs have an undocumented root mode, and there's some apps and SDKs available that got leaked a while back. My previous devices are now kind of ARM homeservers, because they either run ArchLinuxARM or PostmarketOS [1] on them, which is kinda nice and gives me a little satisfaction when I see that I can still use them for a nice tinkering purpose even without a battery inside. One phone even runs my local mesh router with external USB Wi-Fi adapters, off-the-grid and solar charged. The display is used for the Web UI to manage things, which is also kinda nice. It's basically a fullscreen WebKit in kiosk mode. [1] https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices
- t0bia_s 2y agoSamsung Galaxy S line fits as well.
- exe34 2y ago> isn't compatible with LineageOS I gave up on rugged phones for this, I got a pixel 5 and a rhinoshield, which has survived over a year so far, although I don't just throw it around like I could with the bv7000. that phone was the smartphone equivalent of an old Nokia 3310.
- cookiengineer 2y agoSame here, same here. All Blackview and CAT models were insanely bad when it comes to their software, and I couldn't get them to run any self-built ROM and neither any GSI image so I gave up on my dream of an open rugged phone, too :( In the BV case I even tried using the MediaTek root-mode exploit, but didn't have success booting any compiled kernel because lots of drivers are messy in their firmware.
- sadboi31 2y agoThe Moto Z2 Force is great but it does seem as if it is slowly losing some support. I've dropped mine from a bike going 30+mph multiple times and have dropped it on the concrete (no case) more times than I can count.
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