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> economically better off > inextricably tied to the unique ethno-cultural characteristics > scots-irish borderer culture Hate to break it to you but the sco

> economically better off > inextricably tied to the unique ethno-cultural characteristics > scots-irish borderer culture Hate to break it to you but the scots-irish centers of checks notes West Virginia and Bakersfield, CA are not the economic powerhouses of the USA like the Northeast or CA. Gun ownership areas and GDP in the US are almost entirely negatively-correlated.

wyager 2y ago
The scots-irish were one of the 4 largest ethnic groups at the time of the declaration of independence and are arguably the single biggest differentiating factor from other anglo colonies like aus and NZ. Not sure where you're getting your demography from Rural areas have higher GDP, yes, but not relevant
- reducesuffering 2y ago
  > arguably the single biggest differentiating factor from other anglo colonies like aus and NZ. Not the gigantic, habitable, natural resource filled landmass?! I know about the Puritans, Quakers, and Cavaliers. I've read Albion's Seed. Take a look at Scots-Irish demography: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans#/media/File:Census_Bureau_Scotch-Irish_Ancestry_in_the_United_States.gif https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans#/media/... You think that correlates to areas of higher US GDP?
- defrost 2y ago
  Roughly a third of convicts sent to Australia were Irish, a good number political (Fennians), in the 1891 census the Irish made up about 27 percent of the immigrants from the British Isles. Scotland accounted for roughly 12 percent. Together the Scots-Irish block in pre 1900 Australia was comparable to that in colonial America circa Indpendance - some US States had a greater weighting than others. The two countries were intertwined: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalpa_rescue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalpa_rescue
  - wyager 2y ago
    Irish and scots-irish aren't the same thing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans

wyager 2y ago

The scots-irish were one of the 4 largest ethnic groups at the time of the declaration of independence and are arguably the single biggest differentiating factor from other anglo colonies like aus and NZ. Not sure where you're getting your demography from Rural areas have higher GDP, yes, but not relevant

reducesuffering 2y ago
> arguably the single biggest differentiating factor from other anglo colonies like aus and NZ. Not the gigantic, habitable, natural resource filled landmass?! I know about the Puritans, Quakers, and Cavaliers. I've read Albion's Seed. Take a look at Scots-Irish demography: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans#/media/File:Census_Bureau_Scotch-Irish_Ancestry_in_the_United_States.gif https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans#/media/... You think that correlates to areas of higher US GDP?
defrost 2y ago
Roughly a third of convicts sent to Australia were Irish, a good number political (Fennians), in the 1891 census the Irish made up about 27 percent of the immigrants from the British Isles. Scotland accounted for roughly 12 percent. Together the Scots-Irish block in pre 1900 Australia was comparable to that in colonial America circa Indpendance - some US States had a greater weighting than others. The two countries were intertwined: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalpa_rescue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalpa_rescue
- wyager 2y ago
  Irish and scots-irish aren't the same thing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans