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CS2 is considered by some to be a downgrade compared to CS:GO (yours truly included). I have heard reports of tournament PCs being unable to hold a decent FPS i

CS2 is considered by some to be a downgrade compared to CS:GO (yours truly included). I have heard reports of tournament PCs being unable to hold a decent FPS in CS2, whereas they worked great with CS:GO. You can find many user reports sharing similar results, even with higher-end PCs. Valve wants CS2 to be seen as the continuation of CS:GO, and instead of making a better game to replace it naturally, they forced the change on their playerbase. I, and others, will be bitter about this for some time, as CS:GO is an excellent game.

Insanity 2y ago
Their CS2 “server browser” is kinda disgraceful, especially considering that the game was carried for decades on custom maps and mods.
- fragmede 2y ago
  Remember GameSpy? Oh man.
  - kchr 2y ago
    Not to mention All-Seeing Eye!
  - tracker1 2y ago
    I remember when it was QuakeSpy... The original Team Fortress mod for Quake was my absolute favorite back then.
doix 2y ago
Complaining about the new CS is tradition. When go came out, people said source was better. When source came out, people said 1.6 was better. They changed bunny hopping and AWP quick scoping somewhere around 1.3-1.5 and people said the previous version was better. Although I guess in this case they _forced_ people to change, which sucks. Let the niche communities keep playing the version they like. I guess it's because it's a live service game and they need to keep selling their loot boxes.
- Sesse__ 2y ago
  And I do vividly recall someone saying that the later CS betas had lag-compensating things that were unfair, and invited others to play beta 1, “where you actually hit what you aim at”!
  - johnisgood 2y ago
    In ioquake3 and its forks it would be called "unlagged". "Unlagged" is a specific implementation of lag compensation for the Quake III engine, which ioquake3 builds upon. It was developed to improve the gameplay experience for players with high ping, Unlagged aims to ensure that shots hit targets as seen by the shooter, even if there is a significant network delay. There are mixed opinions on it, of course. It is much difficult to kill people without it enabled.
- eertami 2y ago
  > When go came out, people said source was better. Well, when GO was first released it was in fairness not the same CSGO that exists today. Valve took over from Hidden Path after release and it took a couple more years of development to make it competitively viable. I think CS2 will eventually get there as well, it just feels too early to be forced to switch, as you say.

Insanity 2y ago

Their CS2 “server browser” is kinda disgraceful, especially considering that the game was carried for decades on custom maps and mods.

fragmede 2y ago
Remember GameSpy? Oh man.
- kchr 2y ago
  Not to mention All-Seeing Eye!
- tracker1 2y ago
  I remember when it was QuakeSpy... The original Team Fortress mod for Quake was my absolute favorite back then.

doix 2y ago

Complaining about the new CS is tradition. When go came out, people said source was better. When source came out, people said 1.6 was better. They changed bunny hopping and AWP quick scoping somewhere around 1.3-1.5 and people said the previous version was better. Although I guess in this case they _forced_ people to change, which sucks. Let the niche communities keep playing the version they like. I guess it's because it's a live service game and they need to keep selling their loot boxes.

Sesse__ 2y ago
And I do vividly recall someone saying that the later CS betas had lag-compensating things that were unfair, and invited others to play beta 1, “where you actually hit what you aim at”!
- johnisgood 2y ago
  In ioquake3 and its forks it would be called "unlagged". "Unlagged" is a specific implementation of lag compensation for the Quake III engine, which ioquake3 builds upon. It was developed to improve the gameplay experience for players with high ping, Unlagged aims to ensure that shots hit targets as seen by the shooter, even if there is a significant network delay. There are mixed opinions on it, of course. It is much difficult to kill people without it enabled.
eertami 2y ago
> When go came out, people said source was better. Well, when GO was first released it was in fairness not the same CSGO that exists today. Valve took over from Hidden Path after release and it took a couple more years of development to make it competitively viable. I think CS2 will eventually get there as well, it just feels too early to be forced to switch, as you say.