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I am not looking forward to these next few months. For 50 years we’ve had symptoms of an eroding democracy, and they’re becoming terminal now.
by HaZeust 2y ago
I am not looking forward to these next few months. For 50 years we’ve had symptoms of an eroding democracy, and they’re becoming terminal now.
- IAmGraydon 2y agoSpend less time watching social and mass media. You've been brainwashed.
- HaZeust 2y agoYour wishful thinking is wisting away. When tens of millions of people base their real-world behaviors and beliefs from their social media experience, the influence of those feeds seep into our collective reality. Look at the last 10 years for concrete evidence.
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- dragontamer 2y agoPresidential assassination attempts were far more common back in the day. RFK, Regan, etc. etc. Its something the USA has dealt with many many times.
- HaZeust 2y agoAnd you can type this with a straight face, unwilling to acknowledge that we’re devolving to our previous, more primitive roots at a more desperate hour than usual? I’m not sure how to tell you this, but going back to what we used to do is not a good sign. Just because there’s precedent doesn’t mean it’s fine.
- arp242 2y agoIt never changed. People have wanted to murder Biden. And Obama. And Bush. And Clinton. And Bush Sr. And Reagan. And Carter. etc. etc. etc. It's part of being the president, which is why the secret service exists. Just being such a public figure alone is enough to make you a target – Reagan was shot by some delusional guy to impress Jodie Foster. For e.g. Obama there's an entire page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_Barack_Obama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_B... and Bush: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_George_W._Bush https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_G... And Trump: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_Donald_Trump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_D... And I'm sure there's tons more events we never heard about. Or people prevented from doing something just because there was enough security (who only needed to be present to prevent any attack).
- matrix87 2y agoA lot of things were better in the mid 20th century. Wealth inequality for example
- cedws 2y agoIt’s just some unstable dude. Why do you think everybody suddenly wants to murder Trump?
- krapp 2y agoPeople have wanted Trump to drop dead even before 2016, there's nothing sudden about it.
- mrguyorama 2y agoYeah but how many want to murder him. I'm pretty rabidly anti-Trump, but him dying is not going to fix anything, we have tens of millions of people who are horrifically angry and completely detached from reality. What really caught me was just how quickly and agressively a bunch of accounts were pushing a conspiracy theory that this was a false flag put together by the Trump team to boost his ratings as if: 1) Trump would sign onto a plan involving someone shooting him damn near his face 2) As if just barely grazing someone's ear is something you can plan in advance and get right often enough to not accidentally kill the guy it's supposed to benefit 3) As if it's impossible for a young man in America to be utterly disconnected from reality enough to shoot at a politician. It made it very very clear that 90% of the posts on ANYTHING even remotely interesting are either explicitly bad faith actors trying to push divisive narratives, or worse, stupid sycophants repeating anything they see on the internet. I'm genuinely glad he survived.
- krapp 2y agoSomeone has probably wanted, planned or tried to kill most American Presidents since at least Lincoln. Most such attempts don't make the news, much less happen on camera.