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In BTC, they have devised a way to transform the private key, to twelve words. I don't know how that technique is called or where on github it is, but there is

In BTC, they have devised a way to transform the private key, to twelve words. I don't know how that technique is called or where on github it is, but there is for sure a way to for a YT url to be made into words.

fragmede 2y ago
seed phrases are a thing, sure, but how is that more memorable than searching for what the podcast was talking about?
- emporas 2y ago
  Well, twelve words can certainly be transferred verbally, even though the generated words are not that memorable. Encoding a link to a much better memorable scheme could be done through a url service which parses a web page through an LLM, generates some tags, and creates custom routing using the tags. Rails or a more modern tool like Actix-web can do that easily. For example i asked Llama-8B to suggest tags for this HN thread using the title and the first 2 comments, and it suggested: web, URLs, hyperlinks, online-identity, permanence, flexibility, referencing, resource-management, web-architecture. The user can select which tags better represent the link, and create custom routing as such: https://yourlinkservice.com/hn/hyperlinks/referencing/ https://yourlinkservice.com/hn/hyperlinks/referencing/
  - codetrotter 2y ago
    And then the web service that routes the links with those memorable words goes down and now all your links are dead all at once
- kragen 2y ago
  you can make an url shortener that uses short phrases; the s/key word list represents 11 bits per word, so two-word phrases like ode-beam, halo-cham, or jail-heal cover the first two million urls. in my own password generator http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/netbook-misc-devel/bitwords.py http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/netbook-misc-devel/bitwords.... i use a custom '12-bit words of 5 letters or less' list which does 12 bits per word, so phrases like acute-doc, cups-forms, or crypt-swap cover your first 16 million shortened urls. these options also give you some degree of error correction using an url shortener has the advantage that it takes you to the thing the podcast wanted to take you to instead of what a search engine chose to sell you
  - smolder 2y ago
    > using an url shortener Do you speak this way? I notice a lot of "an" usage online which is not in line with how people speak, e.g. "an horoscope". "An url" is likewise not reflective of normal English pronunciation.
    - deleted 2y ago
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    - kragen 2y ago
      probably you are thinking 'youarell', but i say 'earl'
hillbillybones 2y ago
You got me curious- so I looked into this. Its called BIP39[1]. I made a quick proof of concept to generate 6 word phrases from a youtube url using the same wordlist[2] [1] https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawiki https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawi... [2] https://yt-mnemonics.pages.dev https://yt-mnemonics.pages.dev

fragmede 2y ago

seed phrases are a thing, sure, but how is that more memorable than searching for what the podcast was talking about?

emporas 2y ago
Well, twelve words can certainly be transferred verbally, even though the generated words are not that memorable. Encoding a link to a much better memorable scheme could be done through a url service which parses a web page through an LLM, generates some tags, and creates custom routing using the tags. Rails or a more modern tool like Actix-web can do that easily. For example i asked Llama-8B to suggest tags for this HN thread using the title and the first 2 comments, and it suggested: web, URLs, hyperlinks, online-identity, permanence, flexibility, referencing, resource-management, web-architecture. The user can select which tags better represent the link, and create custom routing as such: https://yourlinkservice.com/hn/hyperlinks/referencing/ https://yourlinkservice.com/hn/hyperlinks/referencing/
- codetrotter 2y ago
  And then the web service that routes the links with those memorable words goes down and now all your links are dead all at once
kragen 2y ago
you can make an url shortener that uses short phrases; the s/key word list represents 11 bits per word, so two-word phrases like ode-beam, halo-cham, or jail-heal cover the first two million urls. in my own password generator http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/netbook-misc-devel/bitwords.py http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/netbook-misc-devel/bitwords.... i use a custom '12-bit words of 5 letters or less' list which does 12 bits per word, so phrases like acute-doc, cups-forms, or crypt-swap cover your first 16 million shortened urls. these options also give you some degree of error correction using an url shortener has the advantage that it takes you to the thing the podcast wanted to take you to instead of what a search engine chose to sell you
- smolder 2y ago
  > using an url shortener Do you speak this way? I notice a lot of "an" usage online which is not in line with how people speak, e.g. "an horoscope". "An url" is likewise not reflective of normal English pronunciation.
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
  - kragen 2y ago
    probably you are thinking 'youarell', but i say 'earl'

hillbillybones 2y ago

You got me curious- so I looked into this. Its called BIP39[1]. I made a quick proof of concept to generate 6 word phrases from a youtube url using the same wordlist[2] [1] https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawiki https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawi... [2] https://yt-mnemonics.pages.dev https://yt-mnemonics.pages.dev