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> You can sort of get around it, but your life will suck. I can elaborate on that part. If you want to ride public transportation you can’t buy a ticket withou
by devjab 2y ago
> You can sort of get around it, but your life will suck.
I can elaborate on that part. If you want to ride public transportation you can’t buy a ticket without an app. On some stations they have ticket machines which accept credit cards, but the one at my station hasn’t worked for half a year. If you know in advance that you want to use it you can of course buy a ticket and print it.
If you want physical mail you have to get permission for it, or go through a tedious process of becoming a “non-digital-citizen”. Which is going to also give your our national digital ID in a different form, which you will have to renew after X uses by physically going to the city hall and waiting in a 2-3 hour line. Note that you’ll need this ID for every online purchase you make. My bank doesn’t accept the non-app version, but as far as public services it does work.
I can’t use my doctor without the national health app because things like digital visits have to be done through what is considered a secure channel and my doctor doesn’t want to pay extra for an external system. I think there may be a single doctors house in my city which has a web solution but they are solely for people above 70.
The place where I have my children’s investments, which is sort of the only “easy” option requires an app to log into their website. You could go through a bank, but none of the banks which allow you to buy stock on behalf of your children work without the digital ID app.
Note, I’m not actually angry about it. Having every family members social security barcode in a single app is amazing. In fact most of these apps are great. They do require a smartphone though. Now if the app providers (or their contracts) didn’t suck, many of these apps would be available outside the Apple and Google stores.
- Rinzler89 2y agoThat's pretty horrifying. In which country is that? Of course just because your country fucked it up and went all digital for the lulz while dismentaling traditional Infrastrukture, making life impossible without a phone, doesn't mean all counties are doing it so I can't really see this as a threat where I lived before or where I do now or where I'm planning to move to. And to be fair, buying stocks for your kids is a pretty niche case in terms of "surviving on society without a phone". Even in person, the bank will want some ID for that. So if you want to do it on your phone of course they'll want some app they control.