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Vote with your Canadian dollars, eat from restaurants who serve pork. It turns out that my countrymen love porchetta.

by petre 2y ago

crazygringo 2y ago
But when has KFC ever served pork or bacon? They're a chicken restaurant. Best I can guess is maybe they had a fried chicken sandwich that had strips of bacon too? But not really a huge loss -- bacon is definitely not any kind of classic topping for fried chicken, the way it is for burgers. I mean, I love bacon but I don't want it with fried chicken. Bacon adds crunch and chewiness to a burger; fried chicken is already crunchy and chewy.
- petre 2y ago
  Dunno, I never eat KFC food. I'd rather eat bacon than hormone infused chicken, fully grown in less than a month, pressure fried in a crust of MSG saturated dough, which is supposedly halal and Colonel Sanders actually hates. In fact I just went to the Italian store and bought almost half a kilo of porchetta because of what I read here. It'll keep us well fed for at least two days and has all the collagen my wife otherwise gets from awfully tasting expensive supplements. Praise the lard!
  - gruez 2y ago
    >I'd rather eat bacon than hormone infused chicken, fully grown in less than a month They're both hormone free. "Under Federal law, hormones are only approved for use in beef cattle, swine**, and lamb production. There are no hormones approved for use in the production of poultry, goat, veal calves, mature sheep, or exotic, non-amenable species" https://www.fsis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media_file/2021-02/RaisingClaims.pdf https://www.fsis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media_file/202... >pressure fried in a crust of MSG saturated dough The typical preparation of bacon basically involves it frying in its own fat. I'm not sure how pressure frying is any more worse. Moreover bacon contains nitrates and nitrites, which is known to cause cancer, unlike msg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curing_(food_preservation)#Nitrates_and_nitrites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curing_(food_preservation)#Nit... >which is supposedly halal I think you're misunderstanding whether Halal means. Halal just means the food adheres to Islamic laws. It says nothing whether it's safe or healthy. Unless you're a practicing muslim (which seems unlikely), it shouldn't be part of your consideration one way or the other.
    - lmz 2y ago
      > Halal just means the food adheres to Islamic laws Also ritually slaughtered if that matters to you.
    - redeeman 2y ago
      it also implies paying protection money to be halal, which goes to spread islam in the west
      - selimthegrim 2y ago
        What would you say about kosher certification?
        redeeman 2y ago
        i do not know as much about it, but from my very surface level understanding, that is more a fee you pay to certify your process, whereas halal needs protection money by the quantity that being said, both should not be happening
    - brewdad 2y ago
      They must be doping them with something because I’ve encountered chicken bones that aren’t even fully formed inside of chicken thighs that are above average in size. My MIL used to be a food scientist and spent a few years working with Tyson. She hosted a party once with chicken wings twice the size of my hand. I refused to partake of them especially since she wasn’t allowed to tell me how they got so big.
      - gruez 2y ago
        >They must be doping them with something because I’ve encountered chicken bones that aren’t even fully formed inside of chicken thighs that are above average in size. So your reasoning for thinking there's a conspiracy to hide hormones in chickens involving the federal government, various poultry companies, and the thousands of farmers they subcontract out to, is that you saw a few chicken thighs that looked too big for their bone, and your MIL had a NDA with the company she worked for? The official explanation is "better breeding and growing conditions"[1]. Is there a reason you don't find that plausible? We can see how much of an impact breeding can make on dogs, for instance, and chickens are bred so big that they develop health problems[2]. Maybe the chicken you saw really did had underdeveloped bones relative to how big it was, but it's not because of "They must be doping them with something", it's just how they were bred. [1] https://livestock.extension.wisc.edu/articles/the-chicken-of-tomorrow/ https://livestock.extension.wisc.edu/articles/the-chicken-of... [2] https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/21437054/chickens-factory-farming-animal-cruelty-welfare https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/21437054/chickens-factory...
  - crazygringo 2y ago
    You realize that KFC chicken is just the same chicken you buy at the supermarket? It's an urban legend that KFC somehow raises its own chicken that is somehow different, whether genetically, chemically, or speed of growth. I mean, if you prefer the taste of pork over chicken then great. But the idea there's anything uniquely bad about the chicken supplied to KFC is just factually untrue. Also, since you really like Italian food, you might be surprised to find that Parmesan cheese is chock-full of MSG. Which is a major reason why it's used so much in Italian cuisine to impart flavor. MSG isn't bad -- it's umami, just like NaCl is salt.
    - petre 2y ago
      We don't buy chicken at the supermarket. Our parents raise chickens. Fake supermarket parmesan? Probably. Parmigiano Reggiano DOP, not really. "The only additive allowed is salt, which the cheese absorbs while being submerged for 20 days in brine tanks saturated to near-total salinity with Mediterranean sea salt." > Moreover bacon contains nitrates and nitrites, which is known to cause cancer, unlike msg We don't buy bacon treated with nitrates and nitrites. That's 95% of supermarket bacon. We mostly end up buying prosciutto, which is just dried, salted and nitrate free or use home made bacon, which is basically 100% pork fat in my country. The Italians also make it, it's called lardo and it's cured with herbs. We only cure it with salt and smoke it. I'm not much of a fan of 100% pork fat or lard, but it does make good fries.
      - gs17 2y ago
        The glutamate they're referring to is naturally a part of parmesan cheese. It doesn't need to be added.
- ejj28 2y ago
  I used to work at a Canadian KFC and it's just like you guessed, occasionally we'd have a special sandwich for sale for a limited time that had strips of bacon on it. Normally we wouldn't have any pork products on the menu, and when we did have bacon I'm pretty sure it was microwaved.

Vote with your Canadian dollars, eat from restaurants who serve pork. It turns out that my countrymen love porchetta.

by petre 2y ago

Vote with your Canadian dollars, eat from restaurants who serve pork. It turns out that my countrymen love porchetta.

But when has KFC ever served pork or bacon? They're a chicken restaurant. Best I can guess is maybe they had a fried chicken sandwich that had strips of bacon too? But not really a huge loss -- bacon is definitely not any kind of classic topping for fried chicken, the way it is for burgers. I mean, I love bacon but I don't want it with fried chicken. Bacon adds crunch and chewiness to a burger; fried chicken is already crunchy and chewy.

petre 2y ago
Dunno, I never eat KFC food. I'd rather eat bacon than hormone infused chicken, fully grown in less than a month, pressure fried in a crust of MSG saturated dough, which is supposedly halal and Colonel Sanders actually hates. In fact I just went to the Italian store and bought almost half a kilo of porchetta because of what I read here. It'll keep us well fed for at least two days and has all the collagen my wife otherwise gets from awfully tasting expensive supplements. Praise the lard!
- gruez 2y ago
  >I'd rather eat bacon than hormone infused chicken, fully grown in less than a month They're both hormone free. "Under Federal law, hormones are only approved for use in beef cattle, swine**, and lamb production. There are no hormones approved for use in the production of poultry, goat, veal calves, mature sheep, or exotic, non-amenable species" https://www.fsis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media_file/2021-02/RaisingClaims.pdf https://www.fsis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media_file/202... >pressure fried in a crust of MSG saturated dough The typical preparation of bacon basically involves it frying in its own fat. I'm not sure how pressure frying is any more worse. Moreover bacon contains nitrates and nitrites, which is known to cause cancer, unlike msg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curing_(food_preservation)#Nitrates_and_nitrites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curing_(food_preservation)#Nit... >which is supposedly halal I think you're misunderstanding whether Halal means. Halal just means the food adheres to Islamic laws. It says nothing whether it's safe or healthy. Unless you're a practicing muslim (which seems unlikely), it shouldn't be part of your consideration one way or the other.
  - lmz 2y ago
    > Halal just means the food adheres to Islamic laws Also ritually slaughtered if that matters to you.
  - redeeman 2y ago
    it also implies paying protection money to be halal, which goes to spread islam in the west
    - selimthegrim 2y ago
      What would you say about kosher certification?
      - redeeman 2y ago
        i do not know as much about it, but from my very surface level understanding, that is more a fee you pay to certify your process, whereas halal needs protection money by the quantity that being said, both should not be happening
  - brewdad 2y ago
    They must be doping them with something because I’ve encountered chicken bones that aren’t even fully formed inside of chicken thighs that are above average in size. My MIL used to be a food scientist and spent a few years working with Tyson. She hosted a party once with chicken wings twice the size of my hand. I refused to partake of them especially since she wasn’t allowed to tell me how they got so big.
    - gruez 2y ago
      >They must be doping them with something because I’ve encountered chicken bones that aren’t even fully formed inside of chicken thighs that are above average in size. So your reasoning for thinking there's a conspiracy to hide hormones in chickens involving the federal government, various poultry companies, and the thousands of farmers they subcontract out to, is that you saw a few chicken thighs that looked too big for their bone, and your MIL had a NDA with the company she worked for? The official explanation is "better breeding and growing conditions"[1]. Is there a reason you don't find that plausible? We can see how much of an impact breeding can make on dogs, for instance, and chickens are bred so big that they develop health problems[2]. Maybe the chicken you saw really did had underdeveloped bones relative to how big it was, but it's not because of "They must be doping them with something", it's just how they were bred. [1] https://livestock.extension.wisc.edu/articles/the-chicken-of-tomorrow/ https://livestock.extension.wisc.edu/articles/the-chicken-of... [2] https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/21437054/chickens-factory-farming-animal-cruelty-welfare https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/21437054/chickens-factory...
- crazygringo 2y ago
  You realize that KFC chicken is just the same chicken you buy at the supermarket? It's an urban legend that KFC somehow raises its own chicken that is somehow different, whether genetically, chemically, or speed of growth. I mean, if you prefer the taste of pork over chicken then great. But the idea there's anything uniquely bad about the chicken supplied to KFC is just factually untrue. Also, since you really like Italian food, you might be surprised to find that Parmesan cheese is chock-full of MSG. Which is a major reason why it's used so much in Italian cuisine to impart flavor. MSG isn't bad -- it's umami, just like NaCl is salt.
  - petre 2y ago
    We don't buy chicken at the supermarket. Our parents raise chickens. Fake supermarket parmesan? Probably. Parmigiano Reggiano DOP, not really. "The only additive allowed is salt, which the cheese absorbs while being submerged for 20 days in brine tanks saturated to near-total salinity with Mediterranean sea salt." > Moreover bacon contains nitrates and nitrites, which is known to cause cancer, unlike msg We don't buy bacon treated with nitrates and nitrites. That's 95% of supermarket bacon. We mostly end up buying prosciutto, which is just dried, salted and nitrate free or use home made bacon, which is basically 100% pork fat in my country. The Italians also make it, it's called lardo and it's cured with herbs. We only cure it with salt and smoke it. I'm not much of a fan of 100% pork fat or lard, but it does make good fries.
    - gs17 2y ago
      The glutamate they're referring to is naturally a part of parmesan cheese. It doesn't need to be added.
ejj28 2y ago
I used to work at a Canadian KFC and it's just like you guessed, occasionally we'd have a special sandwich for sale for a limited time that had strips of bacon on it. Normally we wouldn't have any pork products on the menu, and when we did have bacon I'm pretty sure it was microwaved.