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This has been a refrain for a long time now. And yet…

epolanski 2y ago
To be honest, my current smartphone doesn't feel at all that evolved compared to my 300€s Lumia 920 from 2013.. Pics are slightly better, but I've never cared that much about photos and the Lumia 920 made amazing ones. In fact, if anything, my phone feels slower, more intrusive with ads and notifications..Battery life is much worse too. Things that got better are: - apps supported. Windows mobile was killed by developers sabotaging the ecosystem entirely, many banks/etc just ignored it even when Lumias were outselling iphones globally - screen: albeit it really shows in a very light environments (like at the beach) - external hardware support such as Bluetooth earbuds
- Fnoord 2y ago
  It was Windows Phone, not Windows Mobile. Windows Mobile long worked on resistive touchscreens and had a piece of the cake there. Apple iPhone (with Google Android following up) was innovative with regards to capacitive touchscreen. Which is much more user friendly when using the input device always with you: your fingertips, as opposed to a stylus. It also allowed for bigger interface and more appropriate font size, helping all those 40+ aged people. Back then (Ballmer era) I still didn't trust Microsoft at all. Or: I trusted Google and Apple too much. I'd much rather have seen Sailfish succeed. Especially as I used the predecessors in '00s (Nokia N810, N900). N9 was a great direction but Elop and Ballmer killed it off. But sabotage, it is more a chicken egg problem of network effect. Cause, many devs tried. I still believe Windows Phone had a clean UI with those limited default colors.
- pjmlp 2y ago
  As developer that invested into WinRT, Microsoft did most of the work killing it. Starting by the whole WP 7 to WP 8 reboot. Multiple rewrites of WinRT, requiring us to yet again rewrite the application, between 8, 8.1 and 10, across the various deployment targets, phone, tablet and desktop. Replacing C++/CX with the junk tooling of C++/WinRT, back to the ATL glory days. Ah, the broken promise that all WP 8 devices would be compatible with WP 8.1. And this doesn't cover the remaining mess on the desktop, that carries on with WinUI 3.0. Eventually we stop caring, and moved into more trusty platform holders.

To be honest, my current smartphone doesn't feel at all that evolved compared to my 300€s Lumia 920 from 2013.. Pics are slightly better, but I've never cared that much about photos and the Lumia 920 made amazing ones. In fact, if anything, my phone feels slower, more intrusive with ads and notifications..Battery life is much worse too. Things that got better are: - apps supported. Windows mobile was killed by developers sabotaging the ecosystem entirely, many banks/etc just ignored it even when Lumias were outselling iphones globally - screen: albeit it really shows in a very light environments (like at the beach) - external hardware support such as Bluetooth earbuds

Fnoord 2y ago
It was Windows Phone, not Windows Mobile. Windows Mobile long worked on resistive touchscreens and had a piece of the cake there. Apple iPhone (with Google Android following up) was innovative with regards to capacitive touchscreen. Which is much more user friendly when using the input device always with you: your fingertips, as opposed to a stylus. It also allowed for bigger interface and more appropriate font size, helping all those 40+ aged people. Back then (Ballmer era) I still didn't trust Microsoft at all. Or: I trusted Google and Apple too much. I'd much rather have seen Sailfish succeed. Especially as I used the predecessors in '00s (Nokia N810, N900). N9 was a great direction but Elop and Ballmer killed it off. But sabotage, it is more a chicken egg problem of network effect. Cause, many devs tried. I still believe Windows Phone had a clean UI with those limited default colors.
pjmlp 2y ago
As developer that invested into WinRT, Microsoft did most of the work killing it. Starting by the whole WP 7 to WP 8 reboot. Multiple rewrites of WinRT, requiring us to yet again rewrite the application, between 8, 8.1 and 10, across the various deployment targets, phone, tablet and desktop. Replacing C++/CX with the junk tooling of C++/WinRT, back to the ATL glory days. Ah, the broken promise that all WP 8 devices would be compatible with WP 8.1. And this doesn't cover the remaining mess on the desktop, that carries on with WinUI 3.0. Eventually we stop caring, and moved into more trusty platform holders.