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I feel like having a power outage due to a hurricane isn’t that unreasonable? I mean in California in 2019 the power went out for significant periods of time be

I feel like having a power outage due to a hurricane isn’t that unreasonable? I mean in California in 2019 the power went out for significant periods of time because it was too dry.

silisili 2y ago
It's not so much unreasonable as dangerous. Like much of the coastal south, it's extremely humid and heat is a problem for all but the best in shape. All modern housing is built for AC, and not breezeways or clearing heat.
pennybanks 2y ago
its expected forsure. happens every time but i think the outrage and noise is because a few reason. Houstonians have had many natural disasters in a row now people are just tired and frustrated first and foremost and have been bottling that up. they want to outrage and have someone take responsibility. the city is blue but texas is red. many democrats have been upset at leadership and sees this as another failure. whether theres truth to it im not sure im not too knowledgeable in politics but to me it seems a lot of people outside the state has been calling out texas as well. i can see that influence with local democrats here. also the rain was very weak, usually power wont go out for this long. but it kind of felt more like a strong tornado that ran through the city. it kind of makes me sad to see people using this for politics, and outraging and what not. i mean i dont think we really know if centerpoint was negligent and at fault yet. but again im not too knowledgeable about the company i just pay them monthly. compare this to harvey where everyone was so eager to help someone. but i understand im so tired too. really am
- reaperman 2y ago
  85% of Houston lost power. That absolutely does not happen “every time”, especially for a category 1 hurricane. Some power loss, definitely. But not to this extent.
- EasyMark 2y ago
  The Texas freeze killed/damaged a lot of trees that were just ready to fall on lines, and evidently Center Point Energy is awful at keeping the trees/branches trimmed back from where they can easily fall on lines/transformers
linotype 2y ago
What does the power situation in CA, which has been very stable lately in SoCal, have to do with Texas?
reaperman 2y ago
There’s some argument that Centerpoint spent 50-75% less on tree maintenance[0] than some of its most direct comparison companies. This category 1 hurricane knocked out power to 85% of Houston customers, which is significantly worse than recent-ish stronger storms. A category 1 shouldn’t knock out 85% of the power in Houston - that might be more acceptable for a category 3-4 hurricane. Please also see some of this[1] discussion which includes experiences during past worse events where power was basically restored after a couple days. 0: https://archive.ph/2024.07.12-151510/https://www.khou.com/article/news/investigations/centerpoint-tree-maintenance/285-1cab4152-cb85-4de4-a1e2-ad7ab8ef978f https://archive.ph/2024.07.12-151510/https://www.khou.com/ar... 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/houston/comments/1e1oapb/i_just_spoke_to_the_line_crew_in_the_street_by_my/ https://www.reddit.com/r/houston/comments/1e1oapb/i_just_spo...
CuriousCosmic 2y ago
While it was initially a Cat 5 off the coast, it was a Category 1 hurricane by the time it reached Houston and degraded to a tropical storm before actually leaving Houston. As much as I'm willing to recognize that severity is relative, if any city in Florida lost power as completely and for as long as a result of a Category 1/tropical storm, they'd be ridiculed into next century. And of course this isn't a one off event for Texas either. This is a symptom of a much larger systematic failure of the state's energy grid (which notably isn't connected to and refuses to coordinate with any of the other state grids).

I feel like having a power outage due to a hurricane isn’t that unreasonable? I mean in California in 2019 the power went out for significant periods of time because it was too dry.

silisili 2y ago

It's not so much unreasonable as dangerous. Like much of the coastal south, it's extremely humid and heat is a problem for all but the best in shape. All modern housing is built for AC, and not breezeways or clearing heat.

pennybanks 2y ago

its expected forsure. happens every time but i think the outrage and noise is because a few reason. Houstonians have had many natural disasters in a row now people are just tired and frustrated first and foremost and have been bottling that up. they want to outrage and have someone take responsibility. the city is blue but texas is red. many democrats have been upset at leadership and sees this as another failure. whether theres truth to it im not sure im not too knowledgeable in politics but to me it seems a lot of people outside the state has been calling out texas as well. i can see that influence with local democrats here. also the rain was very weak, usually power wont go out for this long. but it kind of felt more like a strong tornado that ran through the city. it kind of makes me sad to see people using this for politics, and outraging and what not. i mean i dont think we really know if centerpoint was negligent and at fault yet. but again im not too knowledgeable about the company i just pay them monthly. compare this to harvey where everyone was so eager to help someone. but i understand im so tired too. really am

reaperman 2y ago
85% of Houston lost power. That absolutely does not happen “every time”, especially for a category 1 hurricane. Some power loss, definitely. But not to this extent.
EasyMark 2y ago
The Texas freeze killed/damaged a lot of trees that were just ready to fall on lines, and evidently Center Point Energy is awful at keeping the trees/branches trimmed back from where they can easily fall on lines/transformers

linotype 2y ago

What does the power situation in CA, which has been very stable lately in SoCal, have to do with Texas?

reaperman 2y ago

There’s some argument that Centerpoint spent 50-75% less on tree maintenance[0] than some of its most direct comparison companies. This category 1 hurricane knocked out power to 85% of Houston customers, which is significantly worse than recent-ish stronger storms. A category 1 shouldn’t knock out 85% of the power in Houston - that might be more acceptable for a category 3-4 hurricane. Please also see some of this[1] discussion which includes experiences during past worse events where power was basically restored after a couple days. 0: https://archive.ph/2024.07.12-151510/https://www.khou.com/article/news/investigations/centerpoint-tree-maintenance/285-1cab4152-cb85-4de4-a1e2-ad7ab8ef978f https://archive.ph/2024.07.12-151510/https://www.khou.com/ar... 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/houston/comments/1e1oapb/i_just_spoke_to_the_line_crew_in_the_street_by_my/ https://www.reddit.com/r/houston/comments/1e1oapb/i_just_spo...

CuriousCosmic 2y ago

While it was initially a Cat 5 off the coast, it was a Category 1 hurricane by the time it reached Houston and degraded to a tropical storm before actually leaving Houston. As much as I'm willing to recognize that severity is relative, if any city in Florida lost power as completely and for as long as a result of a Category 1/tropical storm, they'd be ridiculed into next century. And of course this isn't a one off event for Texas either. This is a symptom of a much larger systematic failure of the state's energy grid (which notably isn't connected to and refuses to coordinate with any of the other state grids).