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Whatever your thoughts about piracy ethically it's hard to argue it's going to soon be the only viewing experience where you actually own the media. Torrenting

by Spivak 2y ago

Whatever your thoughts about piracy ethically it's hard to argue it's going to soon be the only viewing experience where you actually own the media. Torrenting has for some media become the only way of acquiring it at all.

asdff 2y ago
At the end of the day its the pirates who are maintaining the library of Alexandria of our times. The pirates we insist on vilifying and speaking little of in technical forums even. What does that make those people who stand against those who seek to spread information? No different than the book burners, in my eyes. A shame so many engineers spend their precious time and efforts fighting on what future generations will no doubt see as the wrong side of history, all for a dollar they could easily make elsewhere on less unsavory work.
- sanitycheck 2y ago
  Alternatively, it's just entertainment and movie DRM is at worst annoying and counterproductive. In X years time when humanity is struggling to rebuild civilisation in a radioactive wasteland I don't think the main problem will be the inability to find a copy of "Dumb And Dumber To". The real heroes will turn out to have been the contributors to Open Source and Open Access projects - Linux, Wikipedia, etc. There are better things (often unpaid) developers could be doing than implementing DRM but also much much worse things.
  - asdff 2y ago
    There is quite a spectrum between Dumb and Dumber and the great works of art of our time. What runs in common is that both cases are often withheld from the public due to copyright.
- bigstrat2003 2y ago
  > What does that make those people who stand against those who seek to spread information? No different than the book burners, in my eyes. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but it is factually incorrect to state that willful destruction is the same as hindering someone from making another copy of a work.
iamacyborg 2y ago
The UX of piracy tools is now much better than that of the big streamers too.
- rightbyte 2y ago
  Now? Xbox Media Centre nailed it like 15 years ago. When the user is in control you can't push anti-features like e.g. Chromecast or Samsung TVs are full of.
  - stavros 2y ago
    XBMC is a player, the UX of piracy is everything up to getting the video to play.
    - ahartmetz 2y ago
      XBMC (now Kodi) has plugins - I think I've seen Kodi with a BitTorrent plugin working nicely at a friend's place.
      - stavros 2y ago
        It does. It didn't have torrent plugins that worked nicely 15 years ago.

by Spivak 2y ago

asdff 2y ago

At the end of the day its the pirates who are maintaining the library of Alexandria of our times. The pirates we insist on vilifying and speaking little of in technical forums even. What does that make those people who stand against those who seek to spread information? No different than the book burners, in my eyes. A shame so many engineers spend their precious time and efforts fighting on what future generations will no doubt see as the wrong side of history, all for a dollar they could easily make elsewhere on less unsavory work.

sanitycheck 2y ago
Alternatively, it's just entertainment and movie DRM is at worst annoying and counterproductive. In X years time when humanity is struggling to rebuild civilisation in a radioactive wasteland I don't think the main problem will be the inability to find a copy of "Dumb And Dumber To". The real heroes will turn out to have been the contributors to Open Source and Open Access projects - Linux, Wikipedia, etc. There are better things (often unpaid) developers could be doing than implementing DRM but also much much worse things.
- asdff 2y ago
  There is quite a spectrum between Dumb and Dumber and the great works of art of our time. What runs in common is that both cases are often withheld from the public due to copyright.
bigstrat2003 2y ago
> What does that make those people who stand against those who seek to spread information? No different than the book burners, in my eyes. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but it is factually incorrect to state that willful destruction is the same as hindering someone from making another copy of a work.

iamacyborg 2y ago

The UX of piracy tools is now much better than that of the big streamers too.

rightbyte 2y ago
Now? Xbox Media Centre nailed it like 15 years ago. When the user is in control you can't push anti-features like e.g. Chromecast or Samsung TVs are full of.
- stavros 2y ago
  XBMC is a player, the UX of piracy is everything up to getting the video to play.
  - ahartmetz 2y ago
    XBMC (now Kodi) has plugins - I think I've seen Kodi with a BitTorrent plugin working nicely at a friend's place.
    - stavros 2y ago
      It does. It didn't have torrent plugins that worked nicely 15 years ago.